The N95 ant-virus mask

No, and as I remember had nothing to do with What you said, but How you said it.

This is a DEBATE Forum. Not a Message Board. Learn the rudiments of debate.

Debating do not consist of an exchange of chit-chat one-liner rebuttals ... !

 

Evidently you have never watched a democrat or republican debate on television.

This is a forum and people post things on forums and your comment that a European life is worth 1/3 as much as an American followed by a snarky sideways swipe at the President Trump's son in law deserved a response.
BTW I can make no sense of your first sentence so a proper response is not possible.

 

You need to find a mirror and repeat that a few times.

 

WHERE TO BUY "N95" MASKS?

Look at www.alibaba. com - from which I ordered 9-masks and it took a week to get them (from China). And they aint cheap! A neighbor (here in France) has obtained masks from here: https://www.lightinthebox.com/ - which is also a Chinese company on the web.

Both sites mentioned above should be in English.

The masks aint cheap because the N95 version (the selection for which you must specify) is specifically for air-contaminated environments (like "Covid-19").

And I can't give you a price because - get this! - somehow just entering the URL as shown returns their HomeScreen in French? Now, why should that happen? The answer scares the hell outta me* ...

*Chrome is telling them from what country I am messaging!

 

Wrong. And so what?

I have friends in New Jersey (from where he is originally) and I know what I am talking about. I am sure he and his father-in-law along just fine. They are of the same nature.

Go find the sentence and reprint it here.

Must I do all-the-work because you don't know proper-English ... ?

 

The N95s are all great and fine, until you strap one to your face, and you quickly realize that they're torture devices.

I work in a hospital(but not with patients), and I've been wearing an N95 when I have to go into patient areas, and those masks are about insufferable. I have the cardio-pulm of a long-distance runner, and I get dizzy when I walk up a few flights of stairs wearing the mask, because you just can't breathe. You also have to brush and floss and use mouthwash after lunch lest you gross yourself out breathing your own mouth funk. You can't touch your face during a pandemic, and wearing an N95 mask makes you really, really want to itch and touch and rub all over your face.

We have plenty of N95s available in the hospital right now, but you won't see a single nurse wearing them. It's about impossible to wear them and do a nurse's job. All the nurses are wearing custom-made masks in like leopard-skin and Disney princess prints, because they're so much more comfortable than the paper masks.

People of Gotham City, put on your masks.



Pro tip- huffing Sharpie fumes makes you all sick and barfie.

Lessons we learn the hard way.

 

Incorrect, all NOSHA approved masks are suitable for blocking particles that may carry COVID-19.

 

Before the virus, a N95 mask, depending on quality and style went from about 10 to 50 cents a piece in quantities of 500 or more.

 

From China, I paid (shipment to France included) $27 .for six masks. Yes, a rip-off - but what can you do. There were no N95 masks on sale in Europe.

And here they are trying to make people believe that they can sew a mask together out of ordinary cloths. Very imaginative the French - I doubt cloth will stop even cigarette-smoke if the smoker is less than a yard from an ordinary cloth mask.

One good thing, however, that may not yet be understood in the US. We are on lock-down here in many European countries. One is not allowed to exit their premises without a written agreement (downloaded from a government site) that indicates seven reasons to do so. (Buy food, see a doctor, etc.) If you do not have that document (signed and dated) with you, the police will fine you 130 euros ($150).

True enough, the Covid-19 spreads upon contact. Well, I have found this photo from MIT that shows the distance of a normal sneeze. Source here

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Wow ... ! (3.3 feet / meter)

 

You forgot the Golden Rule......the man with the gold makes the rules.

 

I'm sure your Government health care will save you.

 

Nationalise the scuba stores and give doctors scuba tanks. I doubt anything could be as surefire as having a pre-filled tank of air.

 

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P100s are better. Though they are found as filters that fit onto respirators, and not as masks themselves. The N95 filters out 95% of the same particulate size that the P100 filters 100% of. And ftr, neither stop a virus (though both will catch a lot of it and reduce your exposure). Respirators and P100 filters are typically found at hardware stores, and the more expensive models, typically found at welding or industrial paint supply stores, are full-face, which will protect your eyes. At this point they are really just a gas mask, and can be found with chemical rated filters as well.

Respirators (and thus the P100) are substantially bulkier than an N95 and muffle speech, and as such are less suitable for a setting where quick communication is important, like a hospital. But the filters are 'thicker' and can be used for longer. The respirator that the filters attach to will need to be periodically disinfected, as its not intended to be disposable.

I've found that while most places do not stock a lot of respirators, no one seems to be buying them, so they may be an alternative if you, like me, are in an area perpetually sold out of N95s. On a personal note, I find that respirators don't give me that 'hot' feeling of my own warm breath on my face, which for some reason really irritates me, so the extra bulk is worth it.

And just a thought- if you only have one N95 and you're re-using it, perhaps a hair-dryer would be useful in disinfecting it? I know the Cvirus is susceptible to heat. I've seen differing reports on exactly what temperature kills it, so use caution...
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Mine looks like the one on the bottom and is asbestos rated.

 

You are finding N-95 masks that even the medical community is rejecting due to faulty manufacturing.

 

I use the top one for working in the sewer in Seattle.

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Its rated Organic Vapor, Chlorine, Hydrogen Chloride, Sulfur Dioxide, Hydrogen Sulfide (Escape), Hydrogen Fluoride, Chlorine Dioxide, Ammonia, Methylamine and Formaldehyde & P100 Particulate Filter.

I figure at least one of those neutralizers must have some anti-viral properties as well. At least, that's what I tell myself to keep working down there...

 

These N95 filters are most prevalent in hospitals for personnel tending to the sick. I have one with no breath-exit but I only use it when entering a shopping center. In all other instances I avoid crowds. Besides, all restaurants and bars are closed by government order. Only supermarkets are open for business here. The pharmacies are also closed since there is no medication available for Covid-19*. Not for another 6-months, some say.

So, the treatment is to assist breathing and hoping for the best. But that is also why death-rates are so high.

I have heard of instances where families would bring a member to a hospital for treatment, who would die and they would next see the box in which that person is to be buried. Yes, handling massive deaths is like that. Hospitals are dangerous places in which to work during a plague and visiting (here) is not allowed because of the risk of contagion.

France is (unlike the US) a centrally "managed" country. Or "controlled" meaning the Head of government steps in starts direct-governing to avoid a national catastrophe. All of Europe works this way as regards National Healthcare Services. Control also means that government-measures (in cases of emergency) flow from national-services down very, very quickly to "state"-levels.

Europe has National Healthcare Services that are bearing TOTALLY the work-brunt of fighting Covid-19. As will inevitably happen stateside the European countries with full-up hospitalization means they turn to their neighbors for help with the demand for beds/services. In such cases trains/planes take the really-sick who arrive with their own respiratory-equipment ...

*There are medicinal clinical-trials that have been undertaken. That report is available here.

 

Good stuff, thank you. (Nice mask but, we're not going to the moon - are we? ;^)

I can't see wearing such goggles for hours and hours. The N95 I have is sufficient for shopping (in a store where shoppers are all breathing the same air). And I can't imagine a situation where anything more complex would be necessary for as long as a country is on lock-down. (But going to church on a sunday to sign-songs.No way, José!)

Why the importance of N95? Because it actually captures and stores the bug. Which means one consumes a good amount just staying at home and going out shopping once every 2, 3 or 5 days. I was obliged (there was no other quantity) to buy a box of 9 masks). Which should take me through this episode here that is already four-weeks of self-incarceration here in France. And, frankly, if the longest period of longevity for the COV-19 is about 2/3 hours, the mask should be reusable.

But the advice here in France is "Use it and lose it!" And France has just started stocking masks, but does not even have enough masks at present to put into hospitals that are treating the sickened. In the hospitals, the masks are one-time usage and then throw-away.

Yes, it is hindsight thinking, but I would have thought that the Europeans, who were onto Covid-19 in January, would have thought of the inevitable need of very large quantities of masks.

When one thinks of it ... how does one protect an entire population against another serious attack? They'd better shut-down and shut-in the country where it exists right away.

China is going to have respond to one helluva-lotta questions regarding ITS NEGLIGENCE in this matter. And the world needs an international agreement for controlling such a murderous disease ... !

 

I just happened to have a box with a little over a hundred N95 masks as I use them when woodworking and painting. They work well against dust, spray paint, and noxious fumes from glues and certain finishing products.

Covid19 enters through your mouth, nose, or eyes. To be protected, one needs to also wear eye protection.

The virus comes in droplets. Thus it always falls to the ground. Also, like all viruses it should break apart under UV light. I wonder if one took their mask and put it under a UV light, like the ones barbers use to sterilized their scissors, if it would kill any viruses that landed on the surface. Or if it could hide under the layers of the mask.

 

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That makes all the difference (from a Message Board) in the world ... !

 

Covid-19 is a respiratory virus. (You breath through your eyes? ;^)

I'm going out on a limb and say that it must be breathed into the lungs where it develops its acuteness. (I admit that I could be entirely wrong.)

I am unable to find how much of it is necessary to definitively contaminate a human or even how different means of contamination may function. Apparently that question has not yet been answered. So, time will tell.

Anyway, this is what I have found that explains somewhat how the virus functions:
How are people being infected with COVID-19?

PS: Excerpt from the above linked document:

I also wonder if passing a used N95 mask though 10/15 seconds of a MW-oven can sufficiently kill COVID-19.

PPS: Oupps, found the answer here. Yes, microwaving a mask for 3 minutes kills both HIV and Hepatitis! and, "To be on the safe side, the researchers recommended microwaving at 600 watts for 2 minutes or longer. The good news is that most household microwaves on high can cook at 600 watts."
PPPS: Careful, some masks have a metallic part and that wont do in a MW-oven.

 

(insert headslap emoticon here)The mucous membranes in eyes are highly susceptible to contracting the virus. Why do you think all those people working closely with coronavirus patients are wearing eye protection? You don't have to breathe it in to contract it. You can have it on your hands and eat food and ingest it that way. It doesn't have to be inhaled directly into your lungs to become infected. It has multiple ways to enter your body.

 

Eyes are mucus membranes, that is why washing hands often is important, you touch the eye with dirty hand after taking off dirty N95, you may get it.
I looked up microwaving take out food, must get to 165 degrees or so I read, probably better to use oven, the procedures for using microwave with the metal strip in some masks, not easy:

"According to the research paper written by Dr Amy Price and Dr Larry Chu on behalf of the Stanford AIM Lab and Learnly Covid-19 Evidence Service, the N95 masks can be decontaminated repeatedly with no harm to their effectiveness by heating them at 70C in a regular kitchen oven for 30 minutes." https://www.msn.com/en-my/health/me...ontaminated-in-regular-home-ovens/ar-BB11EHek

 

That is the same formula for sterilizing dirt. In the oven for 30 minutes.