STUNNING! IHME Reduces Their Model Predictions AGAIN! -- Now Say Peak Is ON EASTER and Only 60,000 D

So...you believe we should shut down the economy and stay at home every annual flu season?

 

What's your solution, what is your plan if you were president?

 

I noticed that you just skipped my question and fired off one of your own. Let's try that again shall we?

 

Wow. Another thousand persons dead (34,180) from Covid since I posted these statistics. Anarchical Capitalism is.... anarchy.

"At least 16 million Americans out of work in recent weeks and increased pressure on the distribution centers to provide key staples for a flood of needy people in the country."

Thousands of cars lined up at a San Antonio food bank
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The travel for the Lunar New Year is from the rest of the world TO China. I guarantee you that China New Year is amazing and anyone who can go does TO China. Sadly for the China haters, the celebration was already shutting down, but some people already in China had a hard time going home.

This is hilarious!

Since something like 90% of those PPE supplies were MADE in China, why shouldn't China use their products first? Isn't that what Trump says to do?

So the USA didn't stock even a minimum inventory (Just In Time inventories saving .1 pennies), its all China's fault?

And in fact, we had an opportunity to make a billion masks (still not enough for the USA) using the Defense Production Act, Trump refused! He makes deals with places like 3M to build some masks with pathetic timing and costs, but asides being too late and too expensive, where does 3M usually make masks? Thats right! China!

Its a joke from the Trump and the Republican leaders to have America depend on them!

lol!

Maybe we have a "huge backup capacity" at the labs, untol yesterday, getting an appointment do get a on site test wasn't available even a vulnerable older man who works at risky places like labs, is not possible yet. The regular would only accept very specific criteria, so if they have a
"huge backup capacity", its a secret, just like Trump's warehouse of ventilators and ppe!

But that is OK, just because patients and healthcare workers are sick and dying, Trump's lies never stop!

 

I live in Florida and it was not practiced!

 

Yawn. Very lazy thought process you have there.

Protect the most at risk, let the others keep the economy running.

Or just keep 10s of millions out of work and see how that turns out.

 

So, you're saying that Chinese students in the US, stay at their closed schools during Thanksgiving and Christmas and go to China at the beginning of January when our schools are back in session? OK. I'll buy that story.

Speaking of buying. Is this hilarious?

https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...s/news-story/d5324e3676d38af509d5ac25c56e7cec

Revealed: China stockpiled 2 billion face masks and 25m medical items
China stockpiled more than 2 billion surgical masks and essential medical supplies, many of them from Australia, in a global panic buy.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...s/news-story/5304e5a5080bd4087e4a9be9de210b97

Unfortunately isn't the moral equivalent of a ventilator for folks who find it too hard to research.

 

I want to stay closed until we have what medical science and corporations have said is necessary.

This has been long known - it's nothing new.

We also have to have hospitals where people aren't sacrificing their lives by working there. And, that requires PPE - which our government has NOT helped.

Trump has gathered at least 4 or 5 different groups to "plan" how we should open, and they all say the same thing.

Rather than trying to rally political opposition to health care requirements, he needs to be rallying corporations to produce testing capacity and PPE.

 

Trump has used the Defense Production Act in extremely few cases - one being to yell at GM, who was already stepping up!

We need more PPE an Trump is not using that act to create it.

And, FEMA is interdicting delivery of masks purchased by hospitals and states.

This is NOT what the executive branch is there to do. It's supposed to be HELPING.

Your accusations against governors is ridiculous - first of all, because they are NOT all doing what is necessary as per the CDC. But, many have long been taking those important steps.

 

China is looking more and more craptacular daily.

But I am sure it’s Trump fault somehow!

 

Okay so you have nothing to offer as far as planning and implementation. Regarding your preposterous 'question', No, I do not believe that we should all stay home and "shut down the economy and stay at home every annual flu season", that would be absolutely stupid. But, flu season was bad in the fall of 2019 and winter 2020, I know that because I had it, twice and I had the 'super flu' shot in October.

Covid-19 isn't like any seasonal flu this country or the world for that matter has ever witnessed in history. It has to be treated as an anomaly, it's not normal and has no vaccine.

 

And, we allowed normal travel for Spring Break - in fact we allow normal travel for anything and everything. And, their government worked to supply their peole, including medical staff with adequate PPE - and we are STILL not doing that. In fact OUR government is interdicting delivery of PPE being delivered to hospitals that bought the products.

I don't like everything China did, obviously, but they acted faster and more comprehensively than we have. And, they have been more successful.

There was no national leadership that Mardi Gras should not go on, including no travel bans that blocked foreign travel to the event. We also did nothing about Spring Break, which was tracked by cell phone data showing the breadth of travel from states to FL beaches and back.

Pelosi was working to end attacks on Asian Americans - an aspect of Trump's constat pitch against Asians.

Like with Mardi Gras and Spring Break there was no travel ban or policy directive. And, there was significant ongoing international travel for many reasons.

Suggesting that makes it "progressive" is partisan political BS - but, I'm sure you alerady knew that.

One of the factors slowing our response was that right wing media were claiming that COVID was nothing more than a Democratic plot against the president, and that COVID needed to be IGNORED.

Does that make it a right wing disease?

We are doing less testing today.

And, regardless of the direction being taken, we are a LONG LONG way from having the kind of testing that medical science and corporations agree is necessary for opening our economy.

Today, 10% to 20% of COVID deaths are MEDICAL staff. Our doctors and nurses are dying, because of their exposure and their lack of PPE. Allowing more contact while these people are sacrificing their LIVES to counter the damage of already existing contact is a CRIME.

We have a ways to go. Trump's propaganda against governors is exactly what we DO NOT NEED.

 

There was no capacity for quarentining the number of people who came here from China after we stopped allowing discretionary travel

By mid March or so there had been at least 40,000 entries from China, many involved with trade. No significant fraction of them were quarentined.

And, travel continues today - just not for pleasure.

 

I would LOVE a total travel ban from every country for 6 months, as well as a ban on airline/sea travel domesticallly for 6 months. Question Democrats: You willing to put aside the 'huddled masses' way you wanna live for 6 months to contain the virus?

 

Right now one of the at risk groups is medical workers.

You may be ready to toss your parents under the bus - or your other family members who have issues with lungs, hears, etc. And, maybe your willing to ignore the losses of many who are NOT in any risk group - like sailors on that aircraft carrier, police, firemen, and other first responders who are fuly healthy and not old. I would see that as disgusting, but maybe you feel that way.

But, surely you draw the line at tossing our doctors and nurses under the bus - individuals on the front line risking their lives to save the lives of others.

 

You are really slaving away trying to make this a political issue.

I do not believe you should see it that way.

Dr. Fauci has stated that he can not rebut everything Trump says in his briefings during Trump briefings. Blix is under the same pressure. At one point Dr. Fauci pointed out that he can't just throw himself between Trump and the microphone.

Dr. Fauci and the CDC have been very clear about what we need - just not always in the setting of the briefings.

This is just one of the reasons that many media outlets do not carry Trump briefings live. The contain way too many false statements, and correcing them all with factual evidence is just not effective.

 

I think a lot of unnecessary travel can be reduced significantly with national leadership presenting a sane policy direction.

National leadership would be a big help, as it is a national issue.

One of the very first cases in NYC came from someone visiting a nursing home in Seattle (before the problem was really recognized) and then traveling to NY.

Our policy provided no direction to the thousands of people spread out across the greater southeast region to flock to Spring Break on FL beaches or to Mardi Gras well after COVID was present.

 

What is the difference between 60,000 deaths from annual flu and 60,000 deaths from COVID-19 (based on the current models estimating the death rate)? Why are the deaths of COVID-19 deaths more valuable and more precious as human lives than annual flu deaths?

I'm really trying to wrap my head around the idea that we have to destroy the US economy to keep disease A from killing 60,000 but not from disease B? Obviously in your thinking not all deaths from an infectious flu like disease are equal, but I don't understand why.

The Spanish flu killed half a million Americans at a time that the US population was a third of what it is now. I can understand if we were facing that type of disease, but we're not. I've no idea why you think COVID-19 isn't like anything "the world for that matter has ever witnessed in history." You think this is worse than the Spanish flu or the Hong Kong flu?

I don't get it at all.

 

No...I was responding to your question, which was absolutely political.

Since I don't recall a non political post on this issue from you. You really shouldn't throw stones.

And speaking of political...what do you think this is?

 

Haven't you realized the enormous contagion potential of COVID-19? ...combined with a 2% mortality rate.

Jeanine Pirro is your scientific reference?

If there had been no containment, COVID-19 would have infected 30% of Americans and killed a million people.

 

I don't see that as political at all.

I didn't say anthing about any political party.

It's perfectly reasonable to hold leadership accountabel to mistakes that are made. The fact of their party membership was not the issue, nor did I call it out as such.

 

The fear of this thing is some is 100x worse than the virus.

“ever witnessed in history”...

Ive no ideal how you post that kind of nonsense on the internet when could spend 10 minutes on the internet doing basic research to know how utterly untrue that comment is.

 

Taking action does not imply fear.

So, what makes you think there is lots of fear going on?

 

The biggest difference is the virility of this virus and how easily it can be passed from person to person. The other difference is the length of time it remains active and infectious on innate surfaces, it is active for up to 10 days on a hard surface. That's unlike any other virus. The last thing is that it has killed as many people in six weeks as the regular flu killed people in the US over a period of several months. There's been over 150,000 deaths so far in the past 3 months, the 1968 pandemic took one million lives in the span of one year. If we follow the path we're on, this flu will kill more than the 1968 pandemic.