Man dies from coronavirus after calling it a ‘political ploy’

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    you'll be hard pressed to find any stories on that topic much like you won't hear much about the tested-positive folks who quickly recover

    the agenda is more important than facts
     
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    Rightwingers won't listen, so don't keep talking to brick walls. Lol
     
  3. Matt84

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    Don't you have some protesting to do? :fingerscrossed:
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is entitled to his opinion. While some are enjoying a bit of schadenfreude, he lived as he wanted. He died on his feet because he refused to live on his knees. RIP
     
  5. Daniel Light

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    The problem is that there is a very good chance he infected someone else on the way.
    It's not just a world that's always about you.
     
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    RIP, but showing some basic regard for the lives of others isn't "living on your knees," unless you think a sliver of respect for reality over fantasy and for the health and life of others is somehow subjugation. In which case the only "liberation" would basically be delusion and psychopathy.
     
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    He said the virus doesn't exist and people don't die?

    You thinking any action of the state is going to lessen the death toll is laughable.
    Flattening curves, if possible, does not lower the death toll.

    The world is scary, I know.
     
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    Distancing actions do not lower infections or deaths. Where do you get this misinformed idea?
     
  9. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just like waiting in crowded lines to buy toilet paper. You don't know who has it.
     
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    Where did you get yours?
     
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    Seriously. How could you believe that a communicable disease is not slowed in its spread by keeping people as isolated as one another as possible?
     
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    Its not like he ran around kissing people on the lips. If you want to isolate yourself, no one will argue with you. No one forced people to get within 6 feet of him or anyone else at WalMart. I don't agree with his decision, but its his to make. I race motorcycles, so I am not one to criticize others for taking risks. Some people are more afraid of not living than death. I understand why he made his choice.
     
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    Seriously?
    Do you not understand that slowing spread does not lower overall deaths? It spreads them out and actually increases the time for contact and innoculation.

    Do you understand calculus, integrating to get the area under the curves?

    Flattening curves is meant to spread cases over time not lower the number
     
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    That is intellectually dishonest. That only works with a static number, if you add the variable that isolation will reduce the overall infections the curve will also flatten and the outcome total will decrease.

    The plan is not to expose everyone slowly.
     
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    Yet if the spread is slowed until an effective vaccine is administered, many lives can and will be saved.
     
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    In other related news, anither man who calls virus a hoax feels great and goes to the store every day, sometimes just because hes bored.
     
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    Plus, even before the vaccine the point of slowing the spread was to prevent our medical system from being overwhelmed . . . which also saves lives.
     
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    I love it! I have been spending a lot of time in the canyons on my motorcycle! I recommend that people stay off my roads for a few more months!
     
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    While Congress was discussing a gross violation of civil liberties via the Patriot Act, I knew that we'd never get those back.

    I don't feel that way about this. There's no way the government can lock up the entire country. At this point, I'm hoping people will mostly sit still until Memorial Day. I really believe that government officials of both parties have a legit interest in avoiding a disaster. (That's a big statement from me; there's very little I trust government to do properly. This time, though, they seem to be genuinely interested in what the scientists have to say. So rare!)
     
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    This. Is. Not. A. Flu.
     
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    Once again the Law of Large Numbers utterly eludes the LW. Millions of people across the country have expressed the exact same sentiments... at least one of them died. Womp Womp.

    In other news, somewhere in the country a pious, charitable, kindly person was struck by lightning. Surely that means that their belief in Jesus was in error?
     
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    You possibly have a small point but the analogy is complete nonsense. He ridiculed, and I'm assuming avoided, preventative measures and then died of a disease that these measures are meant to address. The appropriate analogy would be that he waved a metal rod in the air and was struck by lightning. Being pious and charitable does not lead to being struck by lightening. Contact with a contagious disease does lead to the strong possibility of contagion. Get it now?

    If you can find an example of someone calling lightning a LW ploy and criticizing (and likely ignoring) measures meant to prevent lightning strikes, only to himself be struck by lightning, then you might have a good analogy.
     
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    Great you can do high school maths, take the next step, spreading the cases over time limits the maximum number of cases at one time, this is what you continually fail to understand.

    It’s not about the total number of cases but making sure treatment is available for those who need it and not exceeding that treatment capacity
     
  24. yardmeat

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    This. Which lowers the death rate. I honestly thought every single source about "flattening the curve" made this blatantly clear.
     
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    You should have studies your high school math better.

    Can you quantify the number of lives saved by keeping daily case load below the hospital capacity saturation threshold verses lives lost due to extending exposure time for the study population ?

    Thanks in advance
     

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