Trump Administration Tells States To Yank Benefits From Those Who Won’t Return To Work

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No argument from me at all but, you would be hard pressed to ever compare Obama's treatment by the press to what is going on with their handling of the Trump administration. I will say the same about all the late night "comedians" who cannot go two full minutes into their show without getting on their anti-Trump tirade. We can leave the NYT and WaPo out of this as they were forced to make public retractions on an all too frequent basis and now they don't even bother.
    I am sure you will agree.
     
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    I see that but to be fair Trump writes the material for them. What I am about to say is not politicly motivated and it's just my opinion and I think* some people see it this way also. Trump does not come off as intelligent. His language, vocabulary, tweets, and facial gestures as well as his questioning make him sound absurd most of the time. His team making excuses for his memory retention and behavior doesn't do him any favors either.
     
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    Maybe if we keep pointing this out, more people will get it. Maybe.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good. If you can work, time to stop suckling the government nipple and pull your weight. Those who wont work are taking resources away from those that can't. Stop being a greedy pig.
     
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    the unemployment benefits were a carrot to get the trillions for the corps, now that the corps have the trillions, Trump wants the carrot back

    how about this, anyone that returns to work that dies, Trump agrees to give their families 10 million dollars, put his money where his mouth is, some may not feel safe yet, let them make their own choice

    how about offering those that do return to work hazard pay for the next month or so
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No argument and much of what you say is correct but what do you think would have been the result if the left had given Trumps first three months in office without all the,

    or

    I still contend that Trump is a narcissist and the left could have owned him.
     
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    I'm just disappointed in people. Like, they can't see when or why it might be bad to return to work. Like all they do is work. I'm sorry but that's just sad. Why can't you find meaning in life that isn't based on keeping other people down?
     
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    republicans offered the carrot to get trillions for the corps... can't take back the carrot after they got what they wanted
     
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    Thats how government works. You never end up with the carrot. The carrot goes to their friends and you get the stick.
     
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    Amen.

    If someone doesn't want to work, fine, but there should be financial consequences. You can't just sit back collecting unemployment because you don't want to work. (And fear and ignorance aren't excuses for not wanting to work.)

    People need to quit reading the trash leftists news sites, and turn off the fear-mongering media, and go back to work if they have the opportunity. (Or suffer the financial consequences of choosing not to work. As it should be.)
     
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    yep, Trump said he was gonna shut down the economy and he did just that
     
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    sad but often true
     
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    huh? why do you have a job where you keep other people down? You should figure out what makes you happy, and figure out away to make money at it...then you won't work again.....but certainly you shouldn't be working at a profession that keeps people down...
     
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    So you are saying we shouldn't have shut things down? You realize the models were calling for over two million in deaths if we did nothing...you were ok with that?

    If you were ok with not shutting things down, I assume you are now for opening things up...so why would you support continuing give out UE benefits to those unwilling to go back to work?
     
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    You can throw equations out all day, but walk through a Walmart or Lowes and you can burn all the research.

    Somehow we've become convinced that the piggly wiggly cashier is an expendable statistic whose life we are willing to sacrifice so Sally can bake a cake.
     
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    I feel like a lot of that is caused by an echo chambers. I watch as much media as I can from all angles. We have a handful (MSNBC, FOX, CNN to name a few) that are obviously broadcasting to a certain demographic. They keep hammering their viewers with issues that they have inflated by covering the extremist and portraying them as the everyday normal. (examples issues: transgender's, gender neutrality, abortion, police brutality, racism.) These issues are very opinion based and much smaller then they make them out to be (on both political spectrums). They cover the crazies and extremists from what ever cause they want to push at the time and their viewers believe this is happening everywhere and it's a real issue.
     
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    Ya, like learn to play an instrument or something....

    It's weird to accept but some people get more satisfaction out of a good days work than they do with playing a poor version of mary had a little lamb on the recorder.
     
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    Taking money away from people who are doing something that makes them happy is going to be better?

    And how do you know the happiness people get from working is worthwhile as compared to playing the recorder?
     
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    Huh? What are you talkin about?
     
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    Playing the recorder and learning mary had a little lamb might make someone happy, but its generally not a profitable occupation.

    Sorry. I'm against financial incentives to sit home, I'm especially against generous financial incentives.


     
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    Why should states tell someone to stop doing what makes them happy to work in the economy?

    That which is profitable is not the same as that which is good.
     
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    Well we agree to disagree.

    1) play the flute, we'll pay you to do so until such a time as your no longer scared, which coincidentally will be the morning after the money dries up.

    2) come back to your old job now because it is no longer on hold, and play the flute in your own time on your own dime.

    I'm solid in #2 category.

    No reason to discuss further.
     
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    They aren't...if you don't want to work the State isn't going to force you. Now, I do think that's an unwise choice...because people have to eat...and it's not the State's responsibility to feed you
     
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    If it is so ****ing safe, then either Trump needs to pay for treatment and funeral and family support, or the company does. To indemnify cos to not pay for liability, is cruel and IMMORAL.
     
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    "Work, or die"
    - Nature

    Your irrational fear does not entitle you to free money.
     
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