Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

J-W's? Jehovah's Witnesses?

 

No the Marxi-Commie-Zionist flavor. LOL

Ten Commandments

• • Thou shalt have no other G-Ds before me
  • Honour thy father and thy mother
  • Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy
  • Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
  • Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
  • Thou shalt not kill
  • Thou shalt not commit adultery
  • Thou shalt not steal
  • Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
  • Thou shalt not covet

The enforcers of the 1st commandment in Germany, Europe and coming to a theater near you soon! The rest they dont give a damn about.

 

accidental double post, delete

 

Those are not the real Ten Commandments.

 

saying its not real is a bit of a stretch.

 

Not really. The ones you cited are just Jewish propaganda. The real Ten Commandments are highly ethnocentric and thus harder to fool the Gentiles with. The good thing about the Ten Commandments narrative is that it is the only part of the Bible that is laid out in an easily understood linear fashion.The problem is that very few people actually read the Bible and even fewer understand what they are reading. They get their information from ignorant preachers and silly Hollywood religious movies.







Read the story, starting at Exodus chapter 19 through Exodus chapter 34. Make your own notes as you read. You will get to Exodus 34 :28 before you will see the phrase the Ten Commandments = https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus34:11-28&version=NIV;CEV;KJV;TLB;NKJV

All of the biblical stories illustrate one or more of the real Ten Commandments in action. The miracles are based on Exodus 34:10 = https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus34:10&version=NIV;CEV;KJV;TLB;NKJV

If a person doesn't know what the real Ten Commandments are then it is doubtful if he will understand any of the biblical stories and what they are about. The stories are like mnemonic devices, where the listener or the read is supposed to be able to link the story to the appropriate Commandment.

So take some time and view the videos and read and take notes from the chapters in Exodus.

 

LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

Re:

If you had read any of my previous posts, you would have seen that I have repeatedly stated that no single race, nationality, ethnic group or religious group has a monopoly on either good or evil.
In other words, Jews are no more prone to fabricating massive money making conspiracies than any other group of people.

Playing the race / anti Semite card is just another evasive ploy commonly used by holocaustians to slander individuals who reject transparent, residual Allied WW2 propaganda, fabricated holocaustian myths and who chose to look at 20th century European history more objectively and rationally.

It is simply not rational to think that the practical Germans would devote so much of their limited resources and manpower to rounding up, transporting, housing, feeding, clothing, and medically treating millions of innocent people only to murder them at the same time they are fighting a war against numerically superior adversaries on multiple fronts.

The reason that I titled this Post "LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION" is that the location of a homicidal gas chamber is critical. You continue to evade the fact that the Auschwitz 1 morgue / phony gas chamber could never have served as a homicidal gas chamber because of its location near the entrance of the camp, directly across from the hospital and next to the Gestapo office.

Even if that building were properly sealed and vented which it was not, the exhausted fumes would sicken or kill the many people passing by in that heavily trafficked location.
Additionally, the fictitious genocidal agenda was alleged to have been a secret.
Why, then would the Germans have located a homicidal gas chamber filled with screaming people and with long lines of people meekly awaiting their death in such a public location?

We have discussed the varying amounts of cyanide residue found around the camp but the only places in which significant amounts of cyanide residue have been found has been in the delousing chambers that existed to save lives. Insignificant, trace amounts of cyanide that are found elsewhere are due to the frequent fumigations needed to exterminate typhus bearing lice that, according to Arno Meyer, were responsible for most all of the deaths at Auschwitz-Birkenau-Monowitz.

Re:

That's simple. There have been occasional times when I have either bought or rented an old building that was infested with fleas because the previous occupant had pets. I did not have to make the building air tight or install an industrial ventilation system to simply fumigate the building.
The fact that a building has been fumigated does not mean that it was a homicidal gas chamber. I suspect that most all of the buildings at Auschwitz-Birkenau-Monowitz were fumigated and some of them fumigated more frequently than others.
Additionally, if thousands of homicidal gassings had occurred in a room, it would have more than trace elements of cyanide in the walls.

You mentioned orders for air tight, sealed doors with peep-holes. These, of course, were the same air tight, sealed doors that were for the delousing chambers.

"Auschwitz Expert: Blueprints Found in Berlin Not of Death Camp"
https://www.haaretz.com/1.5056721

EXCERPT "Van Pelt also said the words "gas chamber" on one of the drawings meant a room in which disinfection of clothing was done by means of gas, and that the sketch is not of an extermination camp established in 1942, but rather of earlier plans for a huge concentration camp in which a force of 130,000 slave laborers was intended to work.
Van Pelt suggested the plans might be fakes, motivated by the lucrative market in Nazi memorabilia and documents."CONTINUED

Now, will you finally explain why the Germans would ever have located a homicidal gas chamber so near to the entrance of the camp, directly across from the camp hospital and next to the Gestapo office or admit that it's just another lie used to deceive the gullible tourists?

Just so we're on the same page, how many people do you think were gassed and cremated at A-B-M, where were they gassed & where are the remains?

 

I don't put anyone "on iggy" but there are two basic facts I'd like you to consider that are salient to our discussion.

The first fact is based on the ADL study that found that the vast majority of people around the world do not believe the profit driven lies espoused by the influential Holocaust Industry-Lobby(1) and its complicit Western MSM.

I think that it's reasonable to assume that a greater number of independent thinking people reject the holocaust myths but chose not to express their true beliefs out of fear that they will be slandered as "Holocaust deniers" which is itself, a fraudulent term because very few doubt that part of the Holocaust "happened".

In other words, no one I know of denies that some Bolsheviks, Communists, the Roma, Jews, homosexuals and genuine criminal rapists, murderers and thieves were interred in work camps where some were executed, some died of natural causes, some were discharged some worked for the 3rd Reich & some simply served their sentences.
That's the extent of the grossly exaggerated, over sensationalized and crassly exploited "Holocaust" that was only recently invented and inflated beyond being a mere footnote in WW2 history.
I believe that it is noteworthy that what has come to be known as "THE Holocaust" was not considered a significant enough tragedy to be included in any of the extensive post war books written by Churchill, Eisenhower, or de Gaulle.

Except for a tiny minority who maintain that nothing happened, there's no such thing as a "Holocaust denier" which is simply a dishonest and maliciously fabricated term used to slander those who reject fraudulent embellishments created by the Holocaust Industry-Lobby to better market their over sensationalized "product".

The second basic fact I've tried to communicate is that the vast majority of people who refuse to be deceived by the Holocaust Industry-Lobby do not reject holocaustian cult mythology out of anti Semitism or a fondness for Nazism. They reject holocaust mythology not just because it defies common sense but because it has proven to be physically, scientifically and mathematically impossible as I've shown in my previous posts:

It is impossible to cremate even one body in 15 minutes.

It is impossible to fit 3 people into 1 square foot (2)

Not a single homicidal gas, steam or electrocution chamber(3) was used to kill anyone in the Nazi occupied 3rd Reich.

It is impossible to cremate anywhere close to 1.1 million people with only the 2,188 tons of coke(coal) that was delivered to Auschwitz during the entire war.

If Hitler & the German High Command allowed Jews as members of the Nazi Party(4) and permitted 150,000 Jews to serve in Germany's WW2 military, awarded them the highest honors and promoted them to the highest ranks, there could not have been a "Final Solution" to murder all of Europe's Jews.

These are just a few of the countless number of simple realities that debunk the fraudulent holocaust narrative that have nothing to do with anti Semitism or pro Nazi sentiment.




(1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


(2). "Ruins of Bunker 2"
https://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Birkenau/RuinsBunker2.html

EXCERPTS "As the four photos above show, Bunker 2 was divided into four small rooms which had the capacity to kill 1,200 Jews at a time, according to Laurence Rees, the author of "Auschwitz, a New History."

According to a book entitled "The Bombing of Auschwitz: Should the Allies Have Attempted It?" by Michael J. Neufeld and Michael Berenbaum, Bunker 2 was 56 feet long and 27 feet wide. Each of the four gas chamber rooms was 14 feet by 7"CONTINUED



(3) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


(4) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of partial* Jewish descent."CONTINUED

*The word "partial" was only recently added.

 

More like you brought a toothpick to a gunfight and cant bear to look the agony of defeat in the eye! LMAO

And of course we have the official records proving J-Ws were not gassed, the Commie J-W Zealots have no defense.


We have official records:

Allied Military Police
NO GASSING
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We have official records:
It was also proven not only by the US Criminal Forensic Expert Charles Larsen, and Britains Barton, way back in 1945 and a memo circulated to the police centers in 1948 that no gassing took place, yet the Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws evangelize spreading massive propaganda and LIES.

We have highly credible 'Jewish' eye witnesses that were in the camp and their testimony matches the physical evidence.



We have official records: There were only 370,000 total prisoners that went through auschwitz, yet the J-Ws claimed 4 million were gassed at auschwitz! WTF?

BRITAIN AGREES WITH HITLER,
BRITAIN BLAMES THE J-Ws FOR THE WAR!!​

- An extract from The Forrestal Diaries, in which the US Secretary of State William Forrestal quotes British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain as complaining that “the world Jews” have forced England into the war.




How did Hitler respond to the J-Ws after they destroyed the German economy, declared war on Germany, and implemented their genocidal plan to starve the Germans?


We have official records:

​

Barbara Cherish, the daughter of Arthur Liebehenschel, wrote a book which was published in 2009, entitled "My father, the Auschwitz commandant." In her book, Barbara credits her father with building a swimming pool for the use of the prisoners. Liebehenschel was the Commandant of the Auschwitz main camp for five months, beginning on December 1, 1943. Liebehenschel is credited with other improvements at Auschwitz I, including the tearing down of the standing cells in Block 11.


The court perfectly summarized what it called my "logical thread" and my "reasoning" by specifying it, for me,


We have official records:
The Courts Finding:
"[...] the existence of the gas chambers, such as usually described since 1945, conflict with an absolute impossibility, which suffices by itself to invalidate all the existing testimonies or, at the least, to stamp them with suspicion."

Finally, the court, drawing a practical conclusion from these considerations, decreed the right of every Frenchman not to believe in the evidence and witnesses of the gas chambers. It stated:

Gas chambers?
Mass murder?
Extermination? (no mass murder)

Holocaust double jeopardy:
When is a swimming pool not a swimming pool?
Correct! When its located in a concentration camp!
When are bomb shelters leaky flimsy wood doors gas chambers?
Correct! When its located in a concentration camp!
When are showers with windows gas chambers?
Correct! When its located in a concentration camp!
When is taking life saving blood samples evil experiments?
Correct! When its located in a concentration camp!
When is undisturbed earth massive graveyards?
Correct! When its located in a concentration camp!
You are the grand prize winner!


We have official records:



The ebo nazis installed windows in the gas chambers so they could charge admission for the gazzing show.

Dont worry your head off, we know who blew the buildings, and it was not the nazis, chalk up another one of your bullshit stories debunked.'


We have official records:
Roza Robota (1921, Ciechanów – 6 January 1945)[1] or Róża Robota in Polish,[2] referred to in other sources as Rojza, Rozia or Rosa, was the leader of a group of four women Holocaust resistors hanged [NOT GASSED] in the Auschwitz concentration camp for their role in the Sonderkommando prisoner revolt of 7 October 1944.

Auschwitz

The Sonderkommando Revolt caused some 70 fatalities among the SS and kapos, and blew the roof off one crematorium

and that is only a tiny sample of what he calls no evidence!
That doesnt even include the volumes of facts Grau posts proving the J-W victim holocaust is made up.

 

Thats SOP when someone pees all over a zealots parade

For typical adult the shortest time to turn a body to ash with a hydrocarbon heat source is 1.5 hours, and up to 4 for a large person.

Thats the problem, which is why the french court took judicial notice that the gassing and cremation was totally not possible, and warned that anyone claiming otherwise is highly suspect!

Nothing adds up. Nothing!

 

I would say that they say that du to their intelligence. Just as the older intelligentsia did before stupid people started reading their myths literally.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Further.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.



Regards
DL

 

Most Jews deny the notion that Jesus was the messiah, so do the Muslims, if that is the prophesy you mean.

I agree with your built on notion.

The more they change Yahweh, the worse that bastard gets.

The Muslin version is more vile than the Christian one, marginally, and the Christian version is worse than the Jewish one.

The even older esoteric Jews were the best and they are now represented in Gnostic Christianity.

I think that that last Jewish group, including the Kabbalists, got together with the Greek Chrestians and formed what later became the various Gnostic Christian religions.

I have yet to prove that last but I am hopeful.

Regards
DL

 

Actually, the bible has 3 different sets.

All garbage when you break them down.

Regards
DL

 

agree, if people could just believe without having to take their religious texts so literally, especially when comes to killing, stoning, ect... - then I think people could get along better

this applies to all the Abrahamic religions

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+15:13&version=KJV

2 Chronicles 15:13

King James Version (KJV)

13That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

 

I hear you.

Scriptures say justice is close to an eye for an eye, oir that the penalty should suit the offence, then turns around and kills for many reasons short of killing.

We cannot know who wrote the bible but consistent in their thinking, they were not.

Immoral in their thinking, they were.

Regards
DL

 

Christianity is the epitome or flowering of Judaism. Islam is not. It is a law unto itself without the salvation of Christ. Otherwise they would teach the gospels of Jesus and be known as Christians, rather than the words of Muhammad and be known as Muslims. Those who hate Jews and call themselves Christians are few. They are racists first and Christians second if at all. Muslims who hate the Jews are many and consider it their religious duty to eliminate them. The vast majority of Christians are exceedingly favorable to the Jews as evidenced in the Christian Bible which contains the old Jewish testament and the new Christian testament. Not to mention that Christian nations were instrumental in establishing and in the rebirth of the nation of Israel some 75 years ago. Muslim nations on the other hand, loathe the matter. So in answer to the question, why do Christians and Muslims hate and dishonor Jews, why would you equate the two? Like you said, Jesus and the first Christians were all Jews. Islam came into being 600 years later.

 

Muslims also believe in Jesus

https://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

" ...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)"

 

Actually, there are 613 commandments (mitzvot in Hebrew) in the Jewish Bible. What Christians call "the ten commandments" is not called so in Hebrew, and is not a part of the commandments. The Hebrew term is "Aseret ha-Dibrot", which can be translated as "the ten sayings", or "the ten declarations".

 

If the vast majority of Christians are exceedingly favorable to the Jews, why did they usurp their Yahweh, who, via Midrash, could be seen as a good god, but without it, as Christians have done, just shows a genocidal and infanticidal prick of a god?

If Christians favored the Jews in the past, why did they persecute them with inquisitions?

Regards
DL

 

As a prophet, yes. As a messiah, no. Muslims are saved by submission to Allah. Not submission to Jesus.

Regards
DL

 

If you have read them, you can see how most are garbage.

Many say the same thing as the 10 commandments.

One cannot command love and they all begin with that stupid theme.

Regards
DL

 

so you snipped my post where I gave you quotes proving you wrong? Then repeated your wrong again....

the only difference is, Muslims do not feel Jesus was really killed....

Muslims also believe in Jesus

https://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

" ...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)"

 

You did not prove me wrong my friend.

Here is what the messiah is supposed to do and be.



Was Jesus an angel? No.

If Muslims are stupid enough to put Mohammad ahead of Jesus, their messiah, then they are really stupid.

Regards
DL

 

How in hell do they know what is happening in the hereafter?

As to here, many do not revere Jesus because of his poor moral tenets. Especially his no divorce for women and substitutional punishment policies.

Regards
DEL

 

The definition of the Ten Commandments is that they were written on two stone tablets and called the Ten Commandments. The laws in Exodus 20 were just oral laws and were not written on stone tables nor were they called the Ten Commandments and they continue through Exodus 23:33.

The rules in Deuteronomy chapter 5 were written on stone tablets but they are not called the Ten Commandments.

Only the rules in Exodus 34:11-28 are written on stone tablets and called the Ten Commandments. Besides, it is those specific laws that are the basis for all of the biblical stories. The rules in Exodus chapters 20-23 and Deuteronomy chapter 5 are not the basis for the biblical stories.

Do you need a further explanation?