Wealthy parents are paying to have their kids homeschooled by professionals for up to 5 hours a day,

Some public schools suck I'm sure, mostly in the big cities if I was to guess, they have the resources, they just utilize them poorly. Good family's and good teachers leave bad areas for greener pastures. I know my parents did, I was born in Chicago, my parents saw where it was going and got the hell out of dodge.

Reminds me to thank them again, and sincerely, for the sacrifices they made to improve my environment, including some horrible commutes for years.

The majority of public schools are fine if you put in the effort as a student and a parent.

 

[QUOTE="nra37922, post: 1071726055, member: 64188"]Give everyone, rich, poor, black, white, the equal opportunity to get the substandard government education they so deserve. Why should the children of the rich and/or powerful be afforded the opportunity of good high quality private education while the children of the masses get the scraps.[/QUOTE] So then why do the dems come unglued when school reform comes on the table?

 

So... everybody gets **** education equally.

God, I love socialism.

 

What can be done will never be done because students and their education are not a priority. Tenure, pensions, preventing competition, profits for publishers of text books take priority. Why are we paying so much for text in the information age?

I live in Los Angeles and in spite of our taxes being among the highest, our schools rank with the lowest.

 

Perhaps this year will Enlighten some school districts to understand that some students take better to homeschool in and online learning. Even if a moderate % take only partial online courses it could reduce costs, ot at least slow thr growth. ... downside it probably creates a new layer of administration, which is a cost drain.

 

We need to pass a law banning rich people. Perhaps that will stop people whining that others have more than them.

 

That's funny I see you're new here ---- looks like you might be a fun new addition! Welcome!

 

Thanks!

 

Because rich people have more money.

 

And they got more money how. I'll tell you how, by getting better educations and screwing over the less fortunate by saying that government education is quality education...For a start I think that ALL elected officials must put their children in a public school in the district they represent. Let them get a taste of how the people they represent are educated and the conditions they have to put up with.

 

Not since 1954. In 1954 the Brown v Board of Ed case changed everything. Since then there has been an unwavering effort to integrate and create an equal outcome for all schools. Of course we know some parts of town and some towns as a whole have more brain power than others, so it became policy especially in blue states to begin to find ways to achieve this equal outcome. No surprise, it was a failure.... And after 4 decades of failure to make everything equal they doubled down on Stupid with the No Child Left Behind Act which ushered in a new era or "special education." Around this same time there was a war going on within education. Do we keep high standards or lower the bar? California attempted to implement a test which had to be passed in order to receive a diploma (supported by the hardliners). But as anticipated the test was deemed racist and eventually thrown out because students of color couldn't pass it. Shortly after California decided to eliminate all rankings of academic performance based on reading, math, etc and began ranking schools and districts based on things like school attendence and graduation rate. I don't think I need to explain how disastrous that was.

 

You have in your hands more technology and information than previous generations could have ever imagined. And guess what, so do all these kids. Better get to work. No better way to learn than self motivated study.

 

If the "NO Child Gets Ahead Act" didn't wake people up to the inferior education being shoved down their children's throat then the poor get what they deserve, they keep the politicians in power.. Their ruling class, and those who can/will make the sacrifice, put their children in private schools for a damn good reason. Why do you think school voucher programs generally go NOWHERE?

 

In my experience any poor family that values education and has children that are relatively bright usually have success. All of that stuff is a big plus in the application and financial aid process. Think of your own personal experiences and I am sure this is also true. What we cant do is say, everything has to be the same because we aren't getting an equal outcome. In education it will never ever be equal. From the staff to the kids to the custodians. The nice part of town will always be better because they have better kids genetically with smarter parents and the smart teachers want to work there. It is what it is.

 

How have they "screwed over the less fortunate"? I grew up in the upper lower class and went to public school. I somehow managed to go to college in my late 20s only to find that there were 0 scholarships for older white guys. So, I had to do it myself. I got through with no scholarships in a lower level school then, due to my good grades, managed to get a fellowship in a better school for my masters. That has led to a very good paying job. How did I screw anyone over? You get what you put into it. People seem to confuse equal opportunity with equal outcome. Everyone has an equal opportunity to go to public school. That doesn't mean that everyone in public school is 2nd class. Out of my small class in a small rural town, there are plenty of doctors, lawyers, professors, and business owners. We also have lots of washouts, druggies, and felons. Had nothing to do with race, school system, or wealth. And no one screwed anyone less fortunate to get what they got.

 

Check your privilege White Boy! Lol

 

All Brown v Board of education. Said was you can’t segragate public schools based on race.

there is no nor will there ever be a right to an equal outcome of anything in a free society. Humans are different. Some smarter then others, some better artist, some better football players etc

 

~ This is yet another indication School Choice is the future ( very similar to Sweden )

 

I still don’t understand the point of this thread.

Parents should not help their kids succeed?

 

~ I believe the point is due to school closure those who can afford private tutors do so - those who cannot must go it alone . In most cases BOTH seem to be doing better than the public schools . Problem is many parents cannot afford to sustain homeschooling.

 

"Poor kids are just as bright as white kids" - Joe Biden

 

Nothing really. As long as there are some people who are more wealthy than others, those people will have better access to the goods and services they want. I don't think levelling is the right aim and isn't viable without a massive social shift that I suspect most people wouldn't actually want (even those who might nominally benefit). The focus should be at the extremes, on those most vulnerable and with most need.

I don't see how. All the private schools will be in shutdown too and the imbalance of access to alternatives for parents is largely down to their own resources and circumstances rather than anything to do with the qualities of the schools the kids are no longer attending.

There is no logical reason why government funding would make a school worse compared to private funding if all else were equal. The main reason private schools often (but not always) appear to perform better is because they benefit from direct or indirect academic selection and disproportionately more funding. Home schooling has the massive advantage of much lower teacher-to-student ratios (often 1-to-1 obviously). If we were willing to pay $25 per hour for every child in the country, they could all get a great education.

 

I just want to say I went to public schools from K all the way to getting my B.S. My teachers and professors were all great and I learned a lot and, while I don't make Bill Gates money, I certainly am doing very well.

Hates off to all my public school teachers! You all did and do an amazing job! I do not at all think you are inferior to private school teachers.

 

Each time a new alphabet soup Soviet style program is decreed and inserted into public education it gets sicker.

 

add to that: Rich are evil.

I don't get this. The poor get plenty of opportunity they just squander it on their own. Especially minorities, they get a leg up in almost every aspect of life except they keep destroying their own communities and refuse to throw out the unemployed gang bangers that rule their neighborhoods. The family has all but been destroyed in these places and the homes literally are filled with children and no Father figures, none with decent moral and decent ethics, at least.

So why are those that follow the law, are good human beings, make money and contribute to society suddenly demonized to the point where you think they are screwing over other people? The fact that they work and pay taxes is actually contributing to these communities, not screwing them over. Most of the tax money from wealthier counties gets funneled to poorer communities. So, in essence, not only are they maintaining their own counties, they are funding poorer ones. They are net gain to society overall. The issue is poor communities constantly churning out criminals and drug addicts and dealers.