Looking at the riots, looting and burnings in Minn

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  1. DaveBN

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    You’re right, he deserved to die.

    Right?
     
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    It’s an all cops issue. Bad cops only exist because “good cops” let them get away with it.
     
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    I read the post, I'm a righty and I didn't need a specific target mentioned! Then again I am aware that this is a PUBLIC forum and really, every post is directed to GROUP discussion :shock::nod::nod::nod::shock:
     
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    You do know that police kill as many white folks, or sometimes more, as they do black folks, right? You can google that easily enough. So actually, I am in the same situation. And yet....

    There are some bad cops out there. No doubt. This particular case is definitely a bad cop or cop(s) - and I believe they will be brought to justice. They've already been terminated from their jobs, and I am sure they will be arrested once the DA can build the cases against them.

    And let's be brutally honest. The people who really care, would be protesting government buildings, etc, not stealing TV's. Those who are stealing could give 2 shits, and are only using this as an excuse to profit.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then I guess all humans are bad.

    Shut down the police departments.

    Let's see how you like the results of that.
     
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    You know what? I am sick and f*cking tired of hearing about the poor black folks. We ran an ad in two newspapers, "Help wanted, Will train, Top Dollar", for two weeks. I was working 73 hour weeks. We would have hired anyone who walked in the door. We got ZERO responses to our ad. That is when I decided the poor black man is poor because of his own actions. F--k 'Em.
     
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    Yup.. That's some obvious points there! For most of those bleeding heart folks it's a "ALL YOU CAN CARRYTHON"! But one good thing was the protester/looters were following CDC guidelines and wearing mask, how convenient :nod::nod::nod::nod: :thumbsup::rock_slayer:
     
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    Well then there's that!
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wouldn't that be called anarchy?
    Isn't that what a faction of you rightists are in favor of?
     
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    Looting and destruction of private property IS ANARCHY..

    LMAO :)
     
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    Reposting this because I feel it is relevant here.

    You know what? I am sick and f*cking tired of hearing about the poor black folks. We ran an ad in two newspapers, "Help wanted, Will train, Top Dollar", for two weeks. I was working 73 hour weeks. We would have hired anyone who walked in the door. We got ZERO responses to our ad. That is when I decided the poor black man is poor because of his own actions. F--k 'Em.
     
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    Nice straw man.

    A good person who witnesses evil, and has the power to stop it, and does nothing is not a good person.

    Good cops that don’t hold bad cops accountable are not good cops.

    Until cops hold their brothers to a higher standard, they are part of the problem.
     
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    No white folks responded either? Maybe your company just sucks at job listings.

    Forgive me if your useless anecdote isn’t a convincing counter argument against the existence of institutionalized racism.
     
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    This is true but it does not justify the looting that is going on.
     
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    I agree that it’s not justified, but I also understand why it is happening. And to the people who are rioting, they see justice in their actions.
     
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    Neither was the man's death justified....if you're choosing one unjust cause over another...
    then perhaps it isn't justice you are really concerned with.
     
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    Where did I say I loved Anarchy. WTF is with people, this instance YOU, accusing me of things I'm not and things I don't even say? And then they get all hurt when I report them for it ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

    Way I see it is, if people cant stay on an even keel and refrain from fabrication and untruths in a debate why not just go take a nap or something :wierdface:
     
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    Nope. The cop was wrong too.
     
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    News flash it is also happening to white people. And you may find this hard to believe but more white people die in police custody than black people.
     
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    Its a good thing whites don't burn down buildings every time a cop kills one of us. There would be NO buildings left!
     
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    If we look at deadly police shooting statistics we can see why this information is deceptive.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

    Since 2017 the US has seen 3,215 deadly police shootings. 1,268 of those were white non-Hispanic people. While that does outnumber blacks at 698 deaths when you take into account other minority groups you get a different picture. In that time period 1,318 minorities individuals were killed by police gun fire. (Note 629 of the 3,215 figure the race of the deceased was unknown.)

    Considering white non-Hispanics make up 72% of the US population minorities represent disproportionate percentage of those killed by police.

    The truth is, if you are a minority, you are more likely to be killed by a police officer than a white person is.
     
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    Yeah, we just save it for winning hockey games.
     
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    HOWEVER a disproportionate number of blacks commit crimes, so police get involved. That means if you dont want to have anything to do with the police, dont commit any crimes. The 16% of the black population commit nearly half of all the murders in the country.
     
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    If it's a strawman, it was developed with your methodology.

    Cops don't exist in a vacuum, but your narrative does.
     
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    I think that in order to be heard in some way that changes the course of progress- you have to be a person that is respectable and commands the attention of good. Thugs don't really do that. Irrational one-sided anger never achieves anything good- and these rioters are much more likely to be disgruntled people attempting to be heard because they threaten harm than that they represent justice for people. It's the behavior of childish minds, throwing tantrums- and looking for excuses to do so.

    Society is not our parent or protector- it is the reflection of us, of we the people, and it won't ever be better than we are. The death reflects an isolated incident resulting from one over-zealous cop's attitude- but the riots reflect a hostility of people who have no idea how to solve a problem rationally.

    You mention Martin Luther King. We have streets, highways, parks, statues, libraries and schools named after him.
    His doctoral these was plagiarized- if a normal person was found to have done so, their degree would be withdrawn by the university granting it. Didn't happen to King.
    His famous speech, "I have a dream" was also not his, but taken from a lesser known preacher and claimed as his. Again, plagiarized. Again, ignored by media because society didn't want to hear it.
    He was know to have his staff recruit prostitutes for him, two or more at a time, which he frequently beat up in sex sessions while using drugs and alcohol.
    Kings memorial library that houses his "works" now admits these things are true- but nobody wants to rename the streets or tear down the statues.

    Society ignores wrongs at will- and has a very adjustable conscience, and justifies such things as rioting and destroying private property because of childish emotions.
    The plight of any person has more to do with their own choices and actions than anything else- but to control you own life, you must take control of those decisions and be responsible for the consequences.
    It's just easier to say it's all someone else's fault, and blame your personal resentment on society. That would be maturity, where men act honorably and logically because it is the right thing to do.

    We have a long way to go.
     
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