Democrat Cesspools Descend Into Chaos

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    That you didn't refute that you're pandering to the right is revealing in itself. I bid you good day! Enjoy the fascists ;)
     
  2. Ethereal

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    Why would I need to refute something for which there is no proof?
     
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    Dude - who are you talking to ? - I am trying to be frank - you know I do not care about Red Blue - other than I despise both Red and Blue establishment on a near equal basis ... and in this election - I have stated in other threads - which side I prefer to win - and exactly why - resulting in the likes of Lee and some of the other hardcore partisans "Dissappearing" - Zero response. That is when I know I have succeeded. Shut down - completely.

    In any case .. I look at this thing from a systemic root cause analysis perspective I have stated that the problem is law/legislation.
    You claimed "well it is the Dems enforcing it" - I did not disagree with you - but simply stated that Red has plenty of blood on their hands in both 1) creation of law .. and 2) enforcement of that law.

    You want to dwell on Blue controlling the cities - what heart wrenching point do you have to make - relating to the core systemic issues going on - that relates to blue having major control of the cities - keeping in mind that I get that they happen to be at the helm in the cities .. and have plenty of blood on their hands ..

    Can we move on ? - - and discuss my claim 1) - that the root cause is bad law/legislation - as if this didn't exist - 2) would not exist.
     
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    Democratic Party politicians chose to be politically correct and let American cities burn.

    They supported the looting and burning.

    This will help Trump. The contrast between left and right is now crystal clear.
     
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    Blue started the war on drugs, red then doubled down on dumb, now neither red, or blue have the least bit interest in stopping such a abysmal destructive failure.
     
  6. Ethereal

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    I was about to ask you the same question. You're well aware that I don't care about partisan BS. You're well aware that I've attacked Republicans frequently. Now I'm attacking Democrats. So what's the problem?

    You know that I don't either.

    I felt the same way until the COVID hysteria. Democrats are now the party of a "new normal" that threatens to ruin society forever. They have gone mad with power.

    Who is primarily responsible for enforcing laws inside Chicago or Minneapolis or Detroit?

    Answer: Democrats.

    That doesn't absolve Republicans for helping to craft bad legislation. It's just a simple statement of fact.

    The Democratic party is the political heart and soul of institutionalized statism, which is the root cause of most of society's problems.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I already agreed that Dem's control the cities "by en large" and I get that there are enforcement issues - but is not like every police Chief is a Dem - and there are other factors to consider.

    This is simplistic and vague response. Law in this nation is made on the basis of the ideology that dominates our political system ... the state having substantial control over social and economic affairs - doesn't really tell us much .. with respect to how legislation is created in this nation - whether or not we are following the founding principles.
     
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    Fascist Republican politicians cheer and threaten more shooting after police continue to execute suspects in custody.

    They supported police violence against minorities.

    This will hurt Trump. Now every minority voter knows "what have you got to lose" by voting for Dirty Donnie: their life.
     
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    Minorities don’t want their neighborhoods burned down by Antifa. They’re with Trump.
     
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    We’re watching the collapse of governments controlled by liberal Democrats.
     
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    (*devil's advocate*) B-b-but those millionaire pizza barons who built up downtown, they're just protecting their own property!"

    (*deep breath*) Uh huh. And the property owners who didn't get rich fattening us up? Their property matters, too. Even the white owners, whom I have read are still the minority in number of parcels but of course not the value after their improvements. Funny how that works. Leftists woulda left the Cass Avenue hookers right where they were able to be found.

    Check the ToledoBlade.com newspaper from neighboring Toledo. Excellent coverage of a violent Saturday and relatively peaceful clampdown (which I saw from a distance). Toledo is a hard-core no-screwing-around blue collar union town. They do not screw around with punks, particularly on tony Monroe Avenue where the shops are. Same up here in the Mitten. Without casinos Detroit goes under. Betcher-bippy they protect the public attractions.
     
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    Really ? So if my city, New York City, opens tomorrow, that means you’re completely wrong about everything you have ever posted !

    Can’t wait for the dawn !
     
  13. Ethereal

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    So Democrats and Republicans share equal blame for what happens in cities controlled by Democrats? Is that what you're arguing?

    No, not really.

    The state is the number one cause of most problems in society and has been since civilization emerged thousands of years ago.

    In America, the party most responsible for aggrandizing and legitimizing state authority is the Democratic party. Granted, Republicans are more than guilty of promoting the same agenda, but the Democratic party is uniquely statist insofar as they openly and aggressively promote state supremacy.

    The state is nothing more than a criminal enterprise masquerading as a legitimate authority. The state was invented by megalomaniac monarchs from Sumeria and Egypt who fancied themselves living gods. The defining traits of the modern state - taxation, bureaucracy, centralization, standing armies - are fundamentally no different than the defining traits of the ancient state. It's just a criminal racket meant to exploit and oppress individuals, families, and communities. And Democrats are the heart and soul of modern statist ideology.
     
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    George Floyd was killed by a government employee in a city governed exclusively by Democrats. Same for Eric Garner.
     
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    Somebody quick set me straight on the total number of city police chiefs in blue cities who are openly Republican and expect a Donk city council to NOT fire him or her immediately. Obey or go elsewhere!
    How many died because your idiot mayor wouldn't put COVID patients on two unused hospital ships, and waited SEVEN WEEKS before ordering subway cleaning? How many lives were lost or ruined by his massive incompetence? Puhleeze, pretty puhleeze...what's that dolt done RIGHT?

    Oh no, we can't tell the truth here, we're Democrats! Wu-Flu?!?!?!...hug a Chinese. Political correctness proved deadly in a blue city and not one GOP pol was involved. It was entirely Dems who let their city die rather than accept Trump's help with those ships. Good luck on getting rent money after so many lost jobs in rent-controlled New Yuck. Property bankruptcies will be brisk. Nice options at cheap prices. Stock up now on recent renovateds.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope

    Never argued against this ? strike 2

    Finally - a substantive claim - I had faith ..

    I thought the Patriot act was a pretty big swipe at legitimizing State Authority .. as was the war on Drugs .. and war on terror .. not that blue was not along for the ride .. but I think we can credit this to the red side.. or rather "things that both sides of the Establishment agree on" if you like.

    Increasing Police powers ? Red is right there - so lets not give Red a pass just yet.

    Now on the Blue side - uniquely Blue more or less - as in arguing your side - against Blue .. how they have uniquely contributed to legitimizing state authority... No one .. has better arguments - well few - than I.

    But we will let you go first .. and then I will tell you why I support the red side in 2020.
     
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    We agree on this.
     
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    NYC is a cluster.
     
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    Your boy, Dirty Donnie the Dummy, let this thing loose in this country. As of today, 110,000+ deaths are on his hands and those of his supporters for putting him is a position of responsibility for which he has no interest whatsoever in serving and for which he is woefully lacking, mentally. Enjoy the game show while Americans continue to die because of his ignorance and incompetence.
     

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