Why are Republicans so opposed to vote by mail?

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Still avoiding answering the question ?
    Moving on
     
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    You favor a system that tracks my voting by big brother and I favor personal freedom. What’s so hard to understand ?
     
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    Waiting for your answer please

    You said you had no problem with showing an ID to register but did to vote.

    What's the distinction you are making having to show it when you register and showing it when you cast your ballot? Showing your ID to vote tracks you no more than not showing one when you show up to vote it only makes sure it is you showing up.
     
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    You have yet to even distinguish what “ an ID” is; between, a general non voting ID, a national voting ID or state and local control of the voting process which can do either or none but use other identifiers which many do. . You keep repeating the same uninformed invalid question that makes no sense.

    This is typical. The right wants something, but they still don’t know what it is or how to get it. It’s like conversing with a pet who seems agitated for some reason but can’t converse well enough to tell you what it is.
     
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    You know what an ID is, like the one you are OK with when you register, why do you keep dodging?

    Waiting for your answer please.

    You said you had no problem with showing an ID to register but did to vote.

    What's the distinction you are making having to show it when you register and showing it when you cast your ballot? Showing your ID to vote tracks you no more than not showing one when you show up to vote it only makes sure it is you showing up.
     
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    Have you ever registered to vote ? Did you have to present a driver’s license and /or photo ID ?
    You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. Licenses are Photo state IDs. Social security cards and Medicare cards are national ID cards.

    When you Pre register for a doctors appointment, often by Phone, you verify you’re insurance and the ID numbers that go with it. When you then go in for appointment service, you just give your name and DOB verbally. It’s no different then voting. Your name with your DOB IS an ID. Maybe that’s a strange revelation to you.

    So wth are you talking about. You think all IDs are the same ? That’s funny.
     
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    I’ve been voting a long time and I’ve always had to supply at least a verbal ID before being given a form. They always had a check list with my name in it and other information from registration they can ask to verify I am who I say I am under penalty of committing a FELONY. Get real.

    Once I vote I’m checked off and no one else can vote under my name and address. Geesus, that alone makes it hazardous for anyone else to vote using my name and and other personal info they have to memorize. How futile can this right wing conspiracy be ? Anyone would have to be Really suseptable to bogus stories to think there is a problem. It’s laughably delusional.

    The right is absurd looking for ways to violate the voting rights amendments in our constitution, all because they have to cheat to win.
     
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    When will you stop being obtuse and answer a simple question. I don't care how long you have been voting.

    You said you had no problem with showing an ID to register but did to vote.

    What's the distinction you are making having to show it when you register and showing it when you cast your ballot? Showing your ID to vote tracks you no more than not showing one when you show up to vote it only makes sure it is you showing up.
     
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    I make no distinction between voting that requires registration, and many other services we use daily that required registration. Once you have registered for healthcare, banking, credit cards, car loans, mortgage loans, you name it. You don’t have to show any more separate IDs to get regular service. What’s so hard for you to understand. It’s ridiculous for you to pretend otherwise.


    You are strange. Real life in most endeavors that require registration, operate that way to protect your personal information.

    and you still say ID without designating what kind. A formal national voting ID is an invasion of privacy. It’s foolish....like your questions.
     
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    I didn't ask you about other unrelated things I asked you about specific and related things, why do you continued to be obtuse and unable to carry on a discussion?

    You said you had no problem with showing an ID to register but did to vote.

    Now try to focus like a laser and not waste my time with your attempt to divert.

    What's the distinction you are making having to show it when you register and showing it when you cast your ballot?
     
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    You’ve just wasted my time......moving on.
     
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    Why are you running away without answering, we discuss things here, why bother if you refuse?

    You said you had no problem with showing an ID to register but did to vote.

    What's the distinction you are making having to show it when you register and showing it when you cast your ballot?
     
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    Shows you do not care about this country and you disrespect the office of the president
     
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    When he stops disrespecting everyone else......in the meantime. He WORKS for me. When I call him a criminal, self proclaimed sexual predator, I’m speaking facts he himself has admitted to. You claim I don’t care about this country ? I served in the military for ten years, was a cop for ten years and have done more in service then “bunker baby” Trump. How about you ?
    You think it’s ok to treat pres Obama, VP Biden With disrespect ? Ha ha ....double standard.
     
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    Who, this guy ?
     
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    It is the democrats spewing hate for this country and for Trump. Trump responds to the democrats hate
     
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    So you do not want the truth. You only believe the democrats lies
     
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    That’s comical. When people tell an eight year old, they are wrong, they immediately respond with “ you don’t like me.”
    That’s trump. In reality, he’s a con man who is out if his league.
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    There is only one science and it has nothing to do with you or Trump. It’s what is found in the military, research facilities, every university in the world and with science INSTITUTIONS. America has lasted because of It’s institutions, all based upon science. Trump has tried to marginalize everyone as the deep state; why ?


    He is a stooge. He can be bought by anyone with a dollar.
     
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    When I find it in Johns Hopkins, MIT or NASA publications, I’ll start to believe it. So far, Trump is a complete neophyte and just makes stuff up. Democrats tend to use these institutions. They tend to be much more dependable. Case closed.
     
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    More hate a useless opinions and democrat propaganda. You have no credibility or integrity
     
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    You mean the NASA Obama destroyed and Trump has had to rebuild?The democrats love their lies and propaganda and hate truth and facts
     
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    Git any proof of that ? Anywhere, any place.
    What a job. Trump directed nasa to go to the moon, now he wants them to go to Mars. Cause according to him. The moon is part of Mars. Try to refrain from attacking a fellow poster.
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jun/07/trump-moon-is-part-of-mars-tweet-nasa
     
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