Trump fans, Don is speaking to you, please listen.

With every self-centered, amoral, immoral, unconstitutional, incompetent, corrupt act Don is telling you it was a mistake. He is telling you he is not capable of carrying out the duties of the POTUS. He is not concerned with your life, or the fate of the nation after he is out of power. Everything he does is sending that message.

He is displaying to you every single day, in previously unimaginable ways, that he is not fit for the job. This was clear from his inaugural address. He sows division, it's what he does. It's the only thing he knows how to do. He asks those around him to dishonor themselves for his sake. Dissenting voices are not welcomed, they are crushed, banished, and retaliated against. Ego only allows for people who praise him, bow to his authority, never question a decision, and prostitute themselves in carrying out commands.

Open your eyes and ears, Trumpette's. Don has no interest in being a President. He does not care what a majority of Americans wants. Being President means trying to represent all Americans. Don eschews compromise, consensus, and cooperation. He is about imposing his will using any means at his disposal. He does not seek to help his constituency, he seeks to use them for the acquisition of power.

He's sending a message. Electing him was an error in judgement. Don't make the same mistake twice.

 

Listen to patriots like Mattis. They have sounded the alarm. Heed their call.

"Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us…was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.

Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children."

Military men are appalled by what they see. Please pay attention to their pleas.

Ex-Top Military Leader Was ‘Sickened’ To See Forces ‘Violently Clear Path’ For Trump Photo-Op
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mike-mullen-atlantic-op-ed-trump-church-photo-op

 

Establishmentarianists turn against Trump when they realize they can't make him into one of them. Its not as heroic as you all seem to think...

 

Why do you hate AMERICA? Our proud traditions, and history, given our shortcomings, ARE AMERICA.

 

Is that really true? Or is it the only way you can think of to defend Trump?

When did it only become the purview of the establishment to honor the constitutional rights of US citizens?

At some point your glorification of Trump for being "anti-establishment" fails to recognize he is acting outside the bounds, not only of propriety but of the founding principles on which this country was established.

 

Please tell me how. And if this is about the riots, it might save you some time to understand that in my opinion if local authorities are unable or actively refusing to protect people from rioters, then the feds are obligated to step in.

 

Hahaha! Sure, sure so we should vote for Chinese Shill Joe Biden? Don't count on it.

 

Why do you rape children?

See how that works? Not very conducive to a constructive discussion, is it?

Ask me a real question.

 

Let's start with the violation of the protester's constitutional rights.

Or perhaps you'd like to discuss the removal of 4 IG's instead.

 

Ok, but you're going to need to be more specific. Theres a lot of different accusstions of that flying around lately...

 

Which constitutional rights are you asserting he has taken away?

 

The first claim didn’t happen.

And the second, he is fully within his right as president to remove the IG. Just like Obama was when he removed the IG.

 

Thoughtful analysis (of any sort) is most commendable.

But this is not thoughtful.

In fact, it is not even analytical.

It is merely a tendentious rant...

 

Not taken away, violated.

"When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/03/read-mattis-statement-on-trumps-handling-of-nationwide-protests.html

 

They weren’t violated. The president has a right to visit areas which were just burned and looted. They weren’t told they couldn’t protest, they were told they had to move for the security of the president. When they refused they were in violation of the law and they have no constitutional right to do so.

 

Please don't deny objective reality. I can't engage with someone who does. That those particular protester's rights were violated is not up for debate. It happened.

The issue with the IG's is about violating the protections put in place when the IG positions were created. Trump has yet to adequately explain to Congress why the IG's were fired, something he is required to do.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grassley-in-bipartisan-letter-trump-ig-firing

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/trumps-grotesque-violation-first-amendment/612532/

 

Are you really--really?--quoting from The Atlantic, as though that were a neutral source of information?

Perhaps you can prove your point some other way.

But if that is the case, then you certainly should.

 

I was all in for Biden, but after reading this thread, i'm gonna vote Trump now!

 

Exsctly.

Anything, even the Average Homeless Panhandler, would be better than Trump.

 

[QUOTE="Andrew Jackson, post: 1071751685, member: 70458]
Anything, even the Average Homeless Panhandler, would be better than Trump.[/QUOTE]

And this is typical of the support that Joe Biden must count on, in November.

Very few people actually (still) like the guy.

But those who simply detest Donald Trump will form Biden's base of support...

 

I got the message. The left wants to destroy law abiding middle class America, our banks, our stores, our peaceful streets, our safety and security in our homes, our institutions, our traditions and our livelihoods. They want to piss on the rule of law and our Constitution.

Oh I got the message all right. Loud and Clear!

 

You ain't
















Speaking to me.

 

Why not dispute the info rather than disparage the source?

 

As I said previously: Perhaps you can back this up with similar information from another (more neutral) source; but if that is the case, you should certainly do so.

Now let me ask you a question: Why can you not make your case from a neutral source?