Trump chooses mattis for secdef!!!

I spent ten years in the us navy.

 

I had absolutely no idea that this thread was still around, but Mattis undercut the President's excellent decision to leave the Syrian hell hole, as sectarian middle eastern conflicts do not preserve the US or its freedoms, therefore its useless to have our forces there. You'd think more would have applauded the decision, but alas.

What the Mattis, Esper's, etc need to understand is that the commander in chief gives the commands and sees it from a broader picture. They may not like the orders, but they have no choice but to follow them or be replaced by someone who will.

 

Halalalallalulla ! Says the neocon...

Oh wait a minute, he, mat, the BULLDOG isnt with us anymore ?
Then he is a traitor and should be put in the whitehouse pillory with all the other people that broke rank. Either you do what the dictator says, how, where, when and without asking why, or your history... They should all be glad it isnt the 1930s or 40s Germany. They would have all fell a bad fate. Just as the Russian who mysteriously dissapear.

And now the RIGHT want to ad in CHina after forcing every corp in the Nation to produce in China so they could BUST UP the union and decent pay.
When are the good christians going to learn that the Right wing has played them like a fiddle. All to the benefit of the .05% . The christian likes to include himself in this group as if his voice makes a difference, also the fact he has no debt from minimizing his life down to CHURCH only affords him this right. Too bad so many lack education, or just racist.

 

Good that they are there and those that support, and now dont can be called out for their lack of loyalty to and for GOOD PEOPLE ! Maddog is considered and will alway be a patriot and smart man. He went in there trying to help. You cant help Trump because he isnt very smart, nor is he loyal to anyone other than family. Not to the country, its people, the republicans, nothing, and ever changing opinion based on EGO.
He is really a horrible horrible person.

 

Here is another well known right wing poster. Always about the republican, the right wing think tanks and the WIN at all cost. Gave 2 thumbs up, wonder what now ? 1 thumb up for each with "no comment" That sounds about what any decent think tank would have their 100k posts put online. Because, after all, it is about winning in November for the rich and greedy.

 

You can start by structuring your sentences appropriately(I'm rarely the internet police but in this case I feel it's needed.). I don't doubt Mattis's previous service, but I think he was better suited fighting on the battlefields, as opposed to being among the top commanders. Because clearly, he could not follow the directives of the administration.

 

The ole "you cant write properly" argument... Always the great fallback for the right when losing. Structure that !

 

And no good thread should be missing a Post by the other 100k poster Hoosier and bluesguy double and triple down with support for each other... for the right. Trapped between right wing and Trump. The guy is destroying your base, your party, your billionaire leverage. What now ? Gonna quadruple down and use the military to rid us of the black folk ?

I wonder how long before they hire a secretary to delete old threads that they start. Cant have honesty hanging around too long.

 

In theory, one would propose that is what would happen. One would suggest that a wise president would seriously consider the advice of experts in the field.

But, there is NO evidence that Trump makes decisions that are informed by experts in the field and then consistently followed.

The ME is complex, but in the FAR simpler but critically serious case of our national fight against COVID one can clearly see that there is NO case where Trump has followed a direction that is informed by experts of any kind.

 

So they can't say if the orders given are asinine.

 

To me, it's not complex. We cannot create democracies in the ME, yet their various actors pose a threat to the West. So, what should we do? Disengage, and yes, we should "ban" actors from that region of the world. We can still be a secular nation, while rejecting those who reject our secularism. Our job is to protect America first, and that's not a Trump thing, that should be a US Nation thing, we should all want for our country first.

 

Didn't stop WMD and the Iraq misadventure, did it? Here, it was "leave the hellhole to rot". And we leave, knowing it will rot and we're okay with that.

 

Where are all the people that were giving praise when Trump chose Maddog? All you hear is silence.

 

We’re still in Syria. Are you referring to when he abandoned the Kurds?

 

Wow...

Re-Reading through this thread, "Didn't Age Well" comes to mind.

It is pretty funny (and telling) how Trump's "supporters" were so Gung-Ho about Mattis.

And, NOW (Just b/c Trump told them "Mattis Bad") they are criticizing Mattis.

Too funny... smh:

 

Trump originally wanted to have all of the troops, but the neocons in the administration convinced him to leave a regional force(and i haven't heard anything, good or bad about them but there's something to be said for basically abandoning a couple thousand Americans in the middle of the desert, what a loyal bunch of people those neocons are.)

Trump's strategic manuever as it regards to the Turkish invasion was brilliant, to put the brunt of the blame on the Turks and to keep our forces from being in the crossfire.

Neoconservatives have failed the government, and Trump's biggest mistake was the conservative/nationalist alignment. As a nationalist, we have nothing alike with conservatives.

 

How is a nationalist different from a white nationalist?

 

They’ve already turned on the free market and the constitution, makes sense

 

Poor little repubbies are sooooo confused these days...

 

What we SHOULD have learned is that better local government doesn't come from slaughtering those living in some target counry.

Our overthrow of Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Libya, etc., etc. - these have nothing to do with nation building. We don't build nations. NONE of that had anything to do with understanding the local situation and growing a nation from that.

With Iraq, we actually thought we created democracy by having a vote!!! Seriously!! But, as if that wasn't pathetic enough, we then picked the 4th highest vote getter, Maliki, as their leader - becaus HE was the guy who helped us slaughter Sunnis!! So, he continued slaughtering Sunnis while gravitating toward Iran - recognizing his shared religious faith.

Let's not keep suggesting that we EVER did "nation buildig". It's just embarrassing.

 

Mattis has a right to voice his opinion but once in the job he didn't do it very well and should be happy in his retirement, disappointed he has turned to uneeded shams of the President.

 

Are you proposing that "nationalist" is inherently racist?

 

I am asking the difference.

 

???

White nationalist clear brings in race as being a key factor - so important that it must have equal billing.

A nationalist doesn't have to be racist.

 

So what is the difference?