Sweden'S Cronovirus Strategy Will Soon be the World's

Trump is most definitely a self-serving career political hack.

 

Im afraid we agree.

 

Yep. One that was there tested positive.

 

So, you think the 25m Australians should abandon their approach that has them reopening their country while losing just 100 people.



Better to follow Sweden's (10m people)...



Better 4,639 dead--right?

Any other bright ideas?

 

I really think you would like Australia, I think people should move to places they are obsessed about.

 

Yes, I like Australia. New Zealand, too. I like Canada, especially British Columbia. All three are safe places where COVID-19 is concerned.

Yeah, sure. Why would you be "obsessed about" a "place?"

 

Not even the pretense of dealing with my post.

 

It's all you.. but you'd have to fly on a plane, lots of germs there
.. so maybe January eh?

 

Can't address what I wrote?

 

I haven't made ANY calls to keep the economy shut down.

I HAVE called for making moves that are consistent with our best understanding of this contagious disease.

Plesse note that I've been positive about Trump's plan on WhiteHouse.gov.

And, I've been highly negative toward Trump's total lack of leadership, feckless response and his constant lobbying of the American public to IGNORE both science and the response plan created by FOUR teams that HE assembled.


White supremacy is continuing to wreck death and hardship on Americans. The idea that we can ignore that is ABSOLUTELY not acceptable. People have been dying over this issue since the first day of our existence as a nation.

What we've seen since this latest murder in MN is of huge importance and should be seriously concerning to ALL Americans - as if the murder itself weren't bad enough.

The president using unmarked force to remove peaceful demonstrators, police rioting (marching down peaceful streets assaulting peaceful protesters, etc.), the president mocking the person the police murdered and calling for unprecedented levels of military violence against Americans, ZERO remorese being shown for these crimes - these are features that we can not allow to exist in America. Ever.

When have we EVER had a president who, when someone is killed by the police, would fail to make moves to pull us together, to express condolences to the family, to work to ensure it is less likely to happen - but who instead GLOATS! Our presidents don't gloat at those put to death by capital punishment. Yet, we now have a president who gloats at murder.

These are factors that define who we are as a nation.

In that way, it is more important than COVID.

 

Biden is the career political hack, not Trump.

 

What are you talking about?

Very telling you have no critical words for the thugs looting, killing, and torching buildings. This whole issue is a farce. Last year there were 10,000,000 arrests in the US, there were 10 unarmed blacks killed (unarmed with guns, half of them attacked police using other weapons), 19 unarmed whites killed, and 89 cops died. Such killings have been going down over the years.

Unfortunately we have a generation of young people brainwashed by public universities who have bought into this race hustling. Funny how non whites from the rest of the world are breaking their necks to come here.

 

Another TDS rant. YAAAWN

Interesting that liberals still say businesses should stay closed and go broke as they encourage large groups of people to gather knowing or hoping for a second wave caused by this behavior. The economic news today has made them panic and this is their Hail Mary pass. Start a second wave to keep businesses closed They are hoping for deaths to soar and doing everything they can to initiate such an event.

 

~ Trump has only been President for less than 4 years. He has no career in politics. He is a land developer and television show producer/ star. He is the most non politicised president in history. I am guessing this is one big reason he will be reelected.
What has Biden accomplished in the last 40 years ... ?

 

He's a corrupt career politician who's been at the public trough his whole life.

 

Create? No, that wasn't a mistake.

We have dozens of efforts to create tests, remedies, and vaccines.

Creating capabilities is NOT a problem.

I think the problems had more to do with which tests were delivered, supported, paid for, etc. - not which were created.

Working tests existed - the federal government just didn't do what was necessary to allow them to be used. THAT was the mistake. They didn't have to require CDC to stop developing tests in order to do that.

This administration has been ANTI WHO for a long time. And, that is purely a political position, not a scientific position.

Another interesting point NOT addressed in the Forbes article is that the CDC test actually included TWO different tests, with the rules being that both tests had to agree. But, one of those tests was a failure, meaning that the two tests weren't going to agree in the important cases.

The problem could have been solved earlier had the administration declared that the bogus test should be ignored.

Eventually, that's what happened. But, the paperwork challenge wasted a LOT of time and caused the destruction of millions of tests at the outset.

My state (WA) was a critical example, as we had more cases than other states at that point. Trump promised us tests. But, when they finally arrived, the administration was still delivering the bogus two part tests that we were told to destroy.

 

Please state what you mean by "public trough".

Do you see all positions related to governance of the USA as being no more than "public trough"?

Do you think government is so trivial that it deserves no respect AT ALL?

I just think you need to clear this up, as here and in other places you tend to make some broad claims of total disrespect for government.

 

Trump did what the CDC recommended from beginning to end. In hindsight that was a mistake but at the time he had no other choice. He was in the untenable position of following what the CDC said or be blamed for every Covid death because he didn’t do so.

 

FBI data shows that the major source of terrorist activity in America comes from white supremacists and their organizations..

You just havn't read all my posts, apparantly. I'm not even slightly supportive of the violent behavior, but the fact is that the VAST majority of demonstrators have been peaceful and have called for an end to the violence. In fact, one of the criticisms of the MN response was that law enforcement simply backed away. Those calling for police response INCLUDED peaceful protesters from the very first day.

Your data on death is ridiculous. There is NO comparison.

 

I don't accept that.

There was immediate action possible when the CDC recognized what their mistake had been. Yet immediate action was not in the medical domain and was delayed.

Beyond that, WHO had tests BEFORE CDC had even created their failed tests.

Why did we not take benefit from that?

 

~ Yes exactly true. However he took a step further and closed travel from China - then Europe also. Those steps have estimated 500 thousand lives saved.

 

Let's remember that the police force in Minneapolis has had strong ties with white supremacists and their organizations.

 

Let's remember that tens of thousands of travelers have come to the US since those "shutdown" moves.

Plus, there has been continuing large scale movement of people within the borders of the US as well - with cell phone tracking allowing measurement of that.

The "closure" of travel from Europe was WAY late. The vast majority of COVID in the USA came from EUROPE, not from China. Here in WA over 40% of our COVID came from EUROPE, not directly from China. And, we got our infections from China before reduction in China travel - even before peole really knew what was going on.

Claiming that reducing travel to/from Europe was good is NOT THE ISSUE.

The issue is that we waited FAR too long to do that. And, when we finally did do it, it was a total fiasco of massively packed airports and no possibility of health checking.

Plus, you can still travel to Europe and back. There hasn't ever been a time when you couldn't do that. And, travel to/from other foreign locations has been open as well.

Bragging about Trump and closures is a TOTAL JOKE.

 

Ask the CDC , it was their call.

 

How and why does a police force in a liberal run city have strong ties to white supremacist? Assuming that’s even true why did the democrat mayor allow that?