Sweden'S Cronovirus Strategy Will Soon be the World's

No, the CDC is not in charge of our relationship with WHO.

The CDC has NOT suggested the president's actions against the WHO. They have recommended AGAINST that.

Rolling out materials, coordinating labs, etc., is also not under control of the CDC - they can only make recommendations.

The CDC doesn't get to decide to ignore the WHO. Trump does.

 

You’ve changed timelines. Trump was right to start questioning the CDC after learning from his mistake in the beginning of this pandemic as per my previous post.

 

EVERYONE should be asking that question!

How can we allow citizens not convicted of any crime be murdered by police when on the other side we have 1 senator whose opinion gets protected EVEN when the issue is a law against LYNCHING today in the USA??

ONE senator, Rand Paul, can stop the passage of a law against LYNCHING!!


Think about what that means for those interested in promoting civil rights, legitimate policing, etc. when the president of the nation is calling for shooting civilians, flashbanging and gassing peaceful protestors, gloating at Floyd, and generally working hard to PROVE his white supremacist leanings.

 

He was right to close our borders to travel. But, there is NOTHING about how he did that which met the reasons for taking that action.

The objective is to fight COVID - not check fake check boxes.

 

dupe

 

You act as if the CDC was an independent agency. They were not. They function under the leadership of Trump's hand picked leadership (controversial at best) and at his behest

 

It's not just Minneapolis

https://www.justsecurity.org/70507/...ct-checking-national-security-advisor-obrien/

 

The CDC gave Trump advice and he chose to follow it. At the time it seemed like the only course of action but with the benefit if hindsight it was a mistake.

 

The post I responded to was about Minneapolis.

 

And THAT included Minneapolis

It also pointed out that the problem is across the board

 

Trump gives Redfield(CDC Head) orders...and he "chooses" to follow them

 

Many have been sick and are not in the statistics because they never went to a doctor.

Until we have accurate information regarding how many now have antibodies, we will never have knowledge of how many people have been infected.

More infected mean a greater herd immunity.

The media so far has been silent about the number of those who died from their Memorial Day antics at Lake of the Ozarks, so likely nobody died from it.

Great weeping and gnashing of teeth by the media, but apparently no deaths.

 

Which explains whet there has been no push for more antibody testing.
Our "best and brightest" will have to work very hard to cover up the extent of their deadly collective stupidity during the Wuhan Virus Pandemic.

 

Any why is the WHO beyond question? Let China pay for it, the WHO are their lackeys.

 

More LW lies, funny nobody called Trump a racist before he ran for POTUS, Sharpton & Co. were lining up to have their photos with them.

 

Wrong once again. New York 5, renting to blacks, both cases well before he ran

 

They are NOT "beyond question". NOBODY has claimed that.

The point here is that we and the world NEED a working WHO. (We also NEED a working China system, by the way.)

We need to improve these things we need - not work to destroy them.

 

This is not true. His racism goes a long way back.

If you didn't know that, that's on you.

In politics, one of the most important appraoches is to work WITH those with whom you disagree. Trump's constant efforts to divide the nation and lead only his personal constituency is unique in the history of the USA.

Our legislature was designed for one purpose - compromise.

 

20,000 infections per day and increases in at least 14 states (not to mention one THOUSAND people dying every day) say that's bullshit

 

There's plenty of push for all kinds of testing...by virtually everyone not named Trump.

 

My understanding is that while there are several antibody tests that the FDA certifies for use, they aren't particularly reliable. Plus, there is a lot that is unknown about immunity resulting from having had it.

Also, a good number of those on the aircraft carrier got over COVID, but then developed it again. Was that because of poor testing, inadequacy of immunity, or ?? If you let surviors into the population, what's the chance that the population is actually protected?

The Executive Branch plan for opening our economy (on WhiteHouse.gov) calls for lots of testing, but no immunity testing.


What's wrong with the president's plan on opening our economy that is so bad that Trump refuses to promote it???

 

The only testing that matters for those without symptoms is anti-body testing. It widely available now.

 

Nonsense.

The idea that testing has or even SHOULD have only value to the person taking the test is just pure bullshit

Testing for active cases tells medical scientists where the virus is and whether it is on the increase or decrease.

Anti body testing has value to the individual IF the testing is accurate and we actually HAVE immunity once recovered.

And no...it's STILL not "widely available"

 

This is false on both counts.

- It's constantly pointed out by medical science that someone who has NO symptoms can transmit the disease. There is a 2 week lead time between getting the disease and showing symptoms. Also, you have to add in the time it takes to get results when using testing for various purposes.

- there are cases of people who have had COVID, recovered to the best of testing capability to detect, and then have become sick again. So far, there seems to be no indication that serum tests are so good that they can detect that the person HAS had the disease, but WON'T become infected again to a level that is transmitable to others.

- Antibody testing is NOT widely available. I tried, as my wife probably had COVID in early February. She was in pretty serious trouble and doctors didn't know why. I found that as of 2 days ago local area facilities are still not administering these tests to people such as my wife for SEVERAL reasons. There are about 10 such tests OKed by the FDA for use, but it's not know which if any are especially reliable. Local hospitals are saying they aren't reliable enough to support acting on test results (like thinking that your "safe" to yourself and/or others). They aren't being covered by insurance. And, there aren't a lot test kits to be had in the first place. Since the FDA certifies those test brands, they may be used in trial programs being conducted in various places.

- the executive branch plan for opening our economy does not include any use of tests oriented to detecting whether the person has had COVID in the past.


Anyway, if we had a test that would show that an individual is not longer in any danger to him/her self or others, that would be great. But, doctors certainly do NOT believe that's where we are.

 

The economy seems to be recovering without NYC, LA, SF and the other Deep Blue cities.
Why should Trump force them to end their lockdowns?