Attention all Soldiers and Veterans

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by HereWeGoAgain, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fail. Try harder.
     
  2. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    HereWeGoAgain yet again hits the nail with the Hammer of Truth.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  3. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    20,237
    Likes Received:
    16,160
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Executing in cold blood is BS. While you were wallowing in the guilt trap these people have told you to dip in, (so called "peaceful" rioters, arsonists and looters) they were killing a large number of innocent people, destroying property of anyone regardless of race. The active terrorists were being aided and abetted by the support terrorists, given shelter to hide in the crowds- and not a damn one of those people lifted a finger or let our a peep to help the innocent victims or stop the carnage.
    Were you one of those??

    I assure you if they were breaking in to my house they way they did in those cities, it wouldn't be cold blood- it would be hot double-ought. Of course, if it were your house, you would welcome them in and say help yourself, wouldn't you? Oh- yeah, that would be different, because it would be you and that wouldn't be fair.
     
  4. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    20,237
    Likes Received:
    16,160
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Every person who has a position of power is not necessarily a bastion of values. Our politics as well as the various parts of government, including the military, are filled with people who are sometimes not at all what you are led to believe. You probably think the rioters looting and burning stores are patriots, too. Is that right?
     
  5. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They don't care. They have a fake narrative to push.
     
  6. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump does not have inherent authority to call up any troops on his own.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  7. SkullKrusher

    SkullKrusher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2011
    Messages:
    5,032
    Likes Received:
    2,137
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    1st off, who gives a flying $&@ what some Neo Con says. And Bush and Obama Neo Cons? Is that how desperate the Left is now, that they actually Imply that there is some universal agreement of former military that Trump is a “threat”

    Please keep on talking this crap, and sooner or later get the visit in the night from the A-team and or ATF , cause that Patriot Act that your hero Obama REINFORCED by signing that NDAA. 2012 , will allow them to detain and interrogate you indefinitely in a cold cell somewhere
     
  8. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Derideo_Te and JakeStarkey like this.
  9. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2017
    Messages:
    5,151
    Likes Received:
    4,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Are you joking or did you sleep through your civics class?
     
  10. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please stop the hyperbole. No has said there "is some universal agreement" among former military leaders that our President threatens America. Some do believe that, though.

    The feds are much more likely to sweep alt right talk-toughies than a housewife on the left.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  11. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My friend, you should have listened in civics class.

    There is no inherent authority in the Office of the President to call up troops without invoking the law.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  12. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2016
    Messages:
    20,237
    Likes Received:
    16,160
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    NO. This movement is about stealing the world you didn't build, destroying the work of others from which you actually benefit from every day in multiple ways.
    Ultimately it would impoverish everyone- including the poorest of us. It would make life far more dangerous for you and even worse for your children. And you endorse that.
    It appeals only to fools who can't see beyond their juvenile limitations, have no appreciation for what they have, but feel great greed and envy over what they have not- and the have not because they failed to get their butts in the drivers seat of life and make good decisions. The "injustice" they think exists now will seem like the good ol days if the injustice they are trying to create comes to pass.
     
    Thought Criminal likes this.
  13. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    General Martin E Dempsey - Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    [​IMG]
    GEN(R) Martin E. Dempsey

    ✔@Martin_DempseyAmerica’s military, our sons and daughters, will place themselves at risk to protect their fellow citizens. Their job is unimaginably hard overseas; harder at home. Respect them, for they respect you. America is not a battleground. Our fellow citizens are not the enemy.
    #BeBetter

    11.6K
    3:58 PM - Jun 1, 2020

    Martin Edward Dempsey KBE (born March 14, 1952), sometimes known as Marty Dempsey, is a retired United States Army general who served as the 18th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from October 1, 2011 until September 25, 2015. He previously served as the 37th Chief of Staff of the Army from April 11, 2011, to September 7, 2011. Prior to that, he served as Commanding General, U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command, from December 8, 2008, to April 11, 2011, as Acting Commander, U.S. Central Command, from March 24, 2008, to October 30, 2008, as Deputy Commander, U.S. Central Command, from August 2007 to March 23, 2008, and as Commanding General, Multi-National Security Transition Command – Iraq (MNSTC-I), from August 2005 to August 2007. Dempsey assumed his assignment as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on October 1, 2011 and stepped down from the Chairmanship on September 25, 2015.[2][3] He now serves as a professor at Duke University and as a chairman of USA - wiki
     
    Derideo_Te and JakeStarkey like this.
  14. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2018
    Messages:
    27,278
    Likes Received:
    11,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I listened to a number of retired admirals and generals this morning. They all had the same message. We shouldn't be using our troops to interfere with a peaceful demonstrations. However, in the back of my mind I could not help thinking. We are not talking about a peaceful demonstration. We are talking about people who are murdering innocent people, looting and destroying and we have states that are unwilling or unable to do anything about it. There is no good solution.

    1. We don't use the troops and the murder of innocents, looting and destruction goes on, but the military retains a better image.

    2. We do use the troops and we can likely stop the murder of innocents, looting and destruction, but it tarnishes the militaries' image.

    I can't help thinking that the second alternative is less bad than the first one.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2020
  15. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Among the peaceful protestors some from the left and the right have come to sow discord and even loss of life.

    The admirals and generals referred to by kriman all know that and yet they say "do not use troops."

    Follow kriman or the generals and admirals.
     
  16. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    27,942
    Likes Received:
    19,979
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "We have a Constitution. And we have to follow that Constitution. And the President has drifted away from it," - General Colin Powell, former Secretary of State under President George W. Bush.

    Powell said he's "proud" of what a number of former generals, admirals and diplomats have said about Trump's response last week to the widespread protests, adding that he hadn't released a public statement denouncing Trump's response because he felt he had demonstrated his displeasure with Trump in 2016 when he voted against him.


    "I think what we're seeing now, is (the most) massive protest movement I have ever seen in my life, I think it suggests the country is getting wise to this and we're not going to put up with it anymore," the retired general told Tapper.
    In contrast, he called out Republican lawmakers for largely staying silent on Trump's response last week to the national unrest.
    "I watched the senators heading into the chamber the other day after all this broke, with the reporters saying, 'What do you have to say? What do they you to say?'" he said.
    "They had nothing to say. They would not react."
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/colin-powell-donald-trump-protests-cnntv/index.html
     
    Derideo_Te and JakeStarkey like this.
  17. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    10,894
    Likes Received:
    2,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're talking about a Cheeto who used government force to attack peaceful demonstrators exercising their 1st amendment right to redress so he could waalk across the street for a photo op.

    Trump is the enemy any American who believes in and supports the Constitution.
     
  18. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,060
    Likes Received:
    49,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Repeating lies is not a good look but I dont think that matters to the useful spreaders of missinfo. At least demand some pittance, dont work for free.
     
  19. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    10,894
    Likes Received:
    2,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It was in all the papers, all over Twitter, but I guess you watch OANN and only follow Trump and Kelly Conway so your ignorance of anything not among Trump's tweets is understandable.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  20. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,060
    Likes Received:
    49,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Guess you missed the news, outside the LW bubble. To be expected. See about a salary, get paid to spread bull. Useful should be profitable....and lol @ "all over twitter"...that sounds..."credible" (and before you go ...but Trump twitter...I dont patronize twitter) What Trump says on twitter, I can depend on reading it here)
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2020
  21. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Then stop doing that, please, my friend. The American electorate has caught on to the alt right media lie circus and are pelting the righty clowns with rotten fruit.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  22. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    10,894
    Likes Received:
    2,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please.
    Those jobs are reserved for kocjh paid lackeys.
    You could qualify.
    If you could write.

    Geez. what a mess.
     
    Derideo_Te and JakeStarkey like this.
  23. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,060
    Likes Received:
    49,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You are so full of so full of wit, so very witty. Yes you are.
     
  24. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    24,396
    Likes Received:
    15,540
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The whole country should be roused and repulsed by trump's endless demagoguery and deplorable character.
    Little by little, we see the whole country rejecting the character and leadership of this charlatan.
    Let's hope that the last person to abandon trump tower turns out the lights.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2020
    Derideo_Te and JakeStarkey like this.
  25. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    53,060
    Likes Received:
    49,441
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not my Prezzdent! Resist!
     

Share This Page