Republicans defending Confederate symbols?

It's exactly like burning a book. We reunited with the South. We put down slavery and embraced the good of that region. We accepted those in the south, a good many of those that never owned slaves. So, answer me this Capn Awesome......do you want to remove Washington from remembrance? Destroy Mt. Vernon and change the name to our Nations Capital as well as many other cities? He did own slaves. Want to erase his memory from the public square? That is where we are going next! Want to ban all movies depicting that history? Confine it to books? Hell they've already banned Mark Twain and Huckleberry Finn. They aren't even smart enough to realize N*((&^ Jim was the only real voice of reason in that book.

 

I, of course, was talking about which side FOUGHT to KEEP slavery.

 

Get rid of all statues up north that were of people that lived before slavery was abolished in those states.

 

What's that overlooking Rio? (*SNORK*)

 

Unless you judge people by the standards of the time they live in, rather than by the standards of today. Which all legitimate historians do.

The north, compared to the world at the time, was a morally advanced place. Compared to the modern world it's not.

Understand?

 

Ya so LMFAO, Dude you're hilarious Does the one holding the horse remind you of any of your school mates?

 

Why would anyone support vandalism and historical revisionism?
These attempts to erase the long history of racism, slavery and treason which has always defined the leadership of the DP should not be allowed.

 

Yes you missed a lot.

 

Do you think those same people up north would have not fought for the south, if they lived in the south. If you do, you are deluding yourself. That is simply not how people think. Very few people crossed the line to fight on the other side.

 

I am a Christian, not a Catholic and I have never worshipped statues. Growing up in Indiana as a small child I went on a field trip to Indianapolis to Monument circle. Seeing those statues made me question a lot about my ancestors who fought for the North and sent me on a lifetime mission to learn more about the Civil War, It's people,and the greatness of America. I still worship God and learned a great deal about my Christian faith but I do it in Spirit and in Truth. Don't get hung up on idol worship here. If you want to, we can talk about the images of men in photography which is essentially the same thing....depictions of men.

 

The statues should remain with plaques describing exactly what they represented when they were erected.

 

No not in the South the North the Midwest or the West. Shall we wipe out all history prior to 1964?

 

But people did cross the line to fight on the other side, didn’t they

 

There were unionists in the South. Many of them resisted the Confederacy.

 

Those are Democrat symbols and Democrats want to hide their association.

 

Very few.

They should get rid of every statue of a person who lived before that state abolished slavery or anything else that could possibly remind anyone of something that happened during that terrible period.

 

That is right. The democrats should get rid of anything that reminds people of that terrible period. Even the name, "Democrat".

 

Then you should be in favor of removing movies of American History as well. Would you like to just consign history to books so eventually you could ban them and remove it all at once? I can't begin to describe how statues sparked my imagination as a child, and still does, to read more and identify with my ancestors that helped to form this great Nation. I like to read, but I don't spend near all my time with nose in a book. I like to get out. I go to Gettysburg and places with monuments. It helps me to imagine what went on there. Perhaps you were a child that just played video games. Many o the recent generation are.

 

A statue is not the same as a photo. Its not put or displayed in the same way. For the same purpose. It is in no way 'essentially the same thing'

https://www.openbible.info/topics/statues

 

Hey, that was good! I've even seen pictures of a statue of KKK Jim Bird somewhere. Let's go get it!!

 

Slavery was an accepted practice upon which various economies were built and on which many livelihoods depended - and in fact an entire way of life was built on the back of slavery since the start of colonization.

Not all of the people who happened to be on the confederate side were bad people simply because they were on the confederate side. Not all slave owners were horrible to the slaves - and/or even believed in slavery.

Someone may not like pot - but if you live in a place where the stuff is legal - you might as well get used to it and make the best out of the situation.

So to answer your question .. In the "Good old days" as described above - the Dems were the "Good ol Boys" - and many stood against freeing the slaves -

Stating this fact - and having an culturally relativistic position - as opposed to the ethnocentric position you are wanting to stand on - is not a paradox.

Cultural relativism is when you view the person - not from the perspective of your culture - beliefs - values - norms (ethnocentrism) but from the perspective of the culture they are living in - along with beliefs norms values of the time.

When I look to a confederate - I do not look to their flag but to their deeds - and on this they should be judged.

 

New York should get rid of any statue or painting of any person who lived in New York prior to 1827.

 

I literally suggested replacing that statues with little free libraries of history books. But you silly folk keep trying to play the defending history card.

Movies about history, which you can voluntarily watch or not in your own home, is in no way anything like a statue errected in the 60s to send a message to black citizens protesting for civil rights.


See the difference?

 

Defending monuments and flags are entirely different things with completely different substance the starting and running the KKK and imposing segregation. It is like saying how can a guy that drinks kool-aid complain about another guy that blows up buildings. Not paradoxical in the least.

 

It is exactly the same as a photo. In fact, most statues are made from photos. It is a representation of what God has created only 2 D. You could worship a photo as well as a statue. That would be an "idol". Photos are displayed everywhere. I bet there are many of you on the left that hand a photo of Barrack Hussein Obama on you living room wall.
A little education for you. In the ten commandments we were told not to worship "any graven images" before God. What is a photo? ....a graven image. An image made by man.