18 murders in 24 hours: Inside the most violent day in 60 years in Chicago

There are few college bound students coming out of those schools and yet they spend the most money. Blacks have to change the way they live and raise their children if they're going to get anywhere.........and STOP blaming everyone else!

 

they come from single parent households like obama, and are groomed to be community organizers from birth on the democrat plantation.

you cannot upend an entire infrastructure of political power for family values.

 

Because the Democrat party is the party of free stuff.

Then I fear it will be the next civil war.

 

And that's where everything bad begins to happen and the no nothing liberals with their programs make problems worse, they insist on treating the symptoms not the disease, their common solution is to toss money at it, they support single motherhood as a way to break the chain and all that support does is strengthen the chain, young black women are beaten is schools for trying to become educated, the claim being getting educated makes a person white, the reality the majority of black women do not want to be educated nor do they want other black women to be educated because it upsets the get paid to breed apple cart.

All the War On Poverty has done is to develop a multi-general problem where women can get paid to breed and black men are cut out because getting married cuts the benefits received.

This program leaves young black men with no real source of income because they, by the way their where raised, lack both the skills and the morals to work for a living, and without a moral male in their lives to temper them while growing up they become violent and believe the only way to solve problems is with a blade or a gun, so being unemployable they turn to crime, most commonly selling drugs, the problem with that is there are only so many street corners and a limited market, so turf wars begin and violence erupts and young black men die at a ludicrously high rate.

And the liberal answer to that problem, toss more money at it, and gun bans, neither of which work.

Liberals have a core problem, that being they cannot blame people for anything, the problem must always be something else.

And that has been clearly displayed in this thread.

And until society says enough is enough and eliminates the number one problem which is paying single black women to breed the problem will only get worse.

A very simple solution would be to cut off benefits after the second illegitimate child is born and demand fathers be located and then given the choice pay for the child to be raised or be incarcerated.

 

This is very harsh but true. Its frustrating that its ignored.

 

Yes, Fryer did not use that term. That was mine. Look for his paper on 'Acting White'.
You're not entirely wrong ... the best example of why unemployment per se is not just a question of character is the Great Depression -- no one believes that the American working class, which went from near full employment in 1929, to 25% unemployment a year or two later, had some sudden moral failing.

However, it's also not as simple as just poverty=crime, affluence =no crime.
I've got to go to bed now [I am an American but I live in the UK], but let me recommend a couple of books, which basically support your view, but which I, as a conservative (or, really, 1960 JFK liberal, but today that's a conservative), would agree with: one is WIlliam Julius Wilson's, When Work Disappears. The other is by Robert Cherry -- Welfare That Works. (I'm quoting from memory now, the titles may be a bit different, but you can find them on Amazon.) Of course you may already be familiar with these books -- really, the recommendations are for the conservatives here.

Oh yes ... one more thing. Education is key. Inner city schools are crap, and just giving them more money won't change anything.
I urge you (and anyone else bothering to read this) to Google on 'Michaela School' 'Brent'. It's a British 'Free School' which takes in mainly non-white kids, and which got stellar, spectacular results in the exams last year. Those are the kinds of schools we need in the inner cities.

Also: go to YouTube, and put 'Marva Collins' into the search bar. You will be astonished ... and maybe cheered up, because it shows what can be done, and refutes the racist view that "it's in their genes, they are doomed to fail". (Genes are important, but society is more important.) And if you have the time, see if you can find the 1960s recording --poor sound -- of a guy names Sid Engelmann, teaching a class of Black kids who are answering algebra questions.

However, to really make an assault on the problem is impossible, because the Republicans wouldn't want to pay for it, and the Democrats wouldn't want to upset the teachers unions. So nothing will change. Never mind, big uphheavals are coming which will put trivial things like riots and a few dozen murders among the lumpen-proletariat into the shade.

 

Happy father's day to all the baby daddies.

This has turned into a right-wing echo chamber. You all seem to agree that pulling the social safety will make people living in poverty come to their senses and turn their lives around. Where has that ever worked in the world? Any evidence?.....I'll wait. I think you are more interested in your tax money than your fellow man. What it will do besides, motivating a few, is increase the misery, hunger, homelessness and the crime rate along with the level of violence.

"the majority of black women do not want to be educated nor do they want other black women to be educated because it upsets the get paid to breed apple cart....black men are cut out because getting married cuts the benefits received." Could that be a racist fantasy as to why there is a violent urban black subculture?

Let me try this again, I'll go slow. First a metaphor. A virus may cause symptoms like a fever and diarrhea. The diarrhea is not the cause of the virus. Poverty is the cause of inner city violence. Take the sickness away, as in these people moving to the middle class and the symptom would go away, unless you believe a particular race is inherently violent, then you leave rational thought and can't be reasoned with.

Here's what I know about urban violence and then I'm done. Black women in poverty are impregnated by men who are unable to support them or they wouldn't be in poverty. No sugar daddies available. Living in poverty can be stressful for children due to address changes, food insecurity. chaotic living conditions, exposure to violence and substance abuse, inconsistent punishment and abnormal parental bonding. Chronic stress causes abnormal cortisol levels in the brain which causes developmental abnormalities. The changes can cause a lack of empathy, poor emotional and impulse control, little foresight, hyper vigilance (hare triggered), mistrust...sound familiar? These kids enter school with a low vocabulary, undiagnosed learning disabilities, maybe PTSD and have a teacher who doesn't expect much from them and you wonder why they don't do well. In the teenage years peers have equal or more influence over behavior no matter the income level. Having done poorly in school and goalless many teens drop into subcultures that take over their lives like drugs, punks, goths, skin heads or gangsta. The problem with this violent black subculture is obvious. Sectors of Black media promote it. It is romanticized in rap. It is a fashion statement. It is sick. The estimated 0.5% of the population causing the violence are largely violent to members of their own subculture. These cliques know each other and the motivation; revenge, disrespected, petty arguments, righting a wrong all come down to defending ones street cred. As far as self worth goes that is all these young men have and they defend it violently. Pity. Who has the power to change all that? The right says the people with the disease.

 

Go source this, buddy.

Fact is that black people get pulled over more while more often white people got more drugs on them when stopped.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/08/los-angeles-police-stop-search-black-latino

That leads to:




The predominantly white police force is just racist.
They probably rough up black people more than white. I don't really doubt that.
The cops kill unarmed black people at a higher % to the ethnic makeup of the US. That's no mystery.

 

Incorrect, the predominant white police force is simply acting based on stats. The black communities issues are overwhelmingly of their own making. The false narratives of the left ironically lead to more problems, not solutions.

black community is a statistical anomaly when it comes to violent crime so police follow the violence leading to an increase in arrest rates for non violent drug related crimes.

 

Incorrect, you are simply making things up as you go. No one is agreeing with that at all. What we are saying is that it is absolutely encouraging people to marry the state, and not a father, which increases the occurrence of marrying the state, and not a father. This is an objective fact, if you lessen the encouragement for that, then you will see less fatherless homes. This is not an opinion, its an objective fact. The "safety net" should be temporary, not permanent. Your perspective is objectively incorrect.

No need for you to go slow, you need to simply rethink your logical fallacy of a position and join the rest of the reasonable world in reality. Go as slow as you like, it doesn't make your arguments any better. You are quite literally attributing symptoms as the cause. Its not poor schools that are the cause of the black community being where its at for instance. Poor schools are a symptom. Its not the confrontations with police, that is a symtom. Its not being poor, that is a symptom. The CAUSE is the breakdown of the family unit.

You were done before you started tbh. Your argument doesn't support your narrative...it supports exactly what I have been saying. The FAMILY UNIT is where this starts. You provide arguments that support what I am claiming, while pretending I, and others, are living in a fantasy land. You can't make this up.

The myriad of issues you brought up, start in the home. It is in the home it is fixed. how does the left want to fix it? Take taxpayer money and give it out based on race as freebies.

Complete nonsense.

 

I don't dispute those figures. The question is , why do you think they are like that? I have dealt with Alcoholics and drug addicts for almost 38 years and I find drug addiction among blacks is more of the street variety where whites it's the pills and Marijuana. The areas that blacks get arrested in are normally going to be in poor areas. Police are going to be more prevalent in areas where there are higher levels of crime. When whites get picked up for drugs they get lawyers and get into rehab as quick as they can. They put on better show for the judge. Blacks have a tendency to be more confrontational with the judge. It's not the police so much, who only are doing there job, as the prosecutors and judges.

 

I await your objective evidence that the "break down of the family unit" caused poverty rather than you subjectively blaming the victim.

 

It isn't about black lives. That is just the rallying cry. It is about replacing our government with a marxist system. At least that is what BLM says. The rallying cry just diverts attention from their agenda.

 

All it takes is an objective look at the data.

Being poor does not make you a victim, there is no victim blaming going on. That’s an absurd way to look at it lol.

You aren’t the victim for leaving your babies mother and never looking back. You arent a victim for marrying the state and never looking for work or a good role model for your son. You aren’t a victim, for reaping what you sow.

You have misdiagnosed everything you have spoken about in this thread.

 

"Kill Whitey" was spray painted on the Andrew Jackson statue.

When the left does it it's peaceful protest. If the right does it it's a hate crime...

 

Great idea!! Criminals have guns so let's refund police and take law abiding citizens guns away. Im sure the wonderful gangstas will turn theirs right in. Moronic.

 

Victim, lol. I've never in my life heard any successful person, black, white or brown, say they were a victim coming from poverty. You have to ask the question why is that? They used sports or education to AVOID the criminality of their peers. They didn't look for excuses but used poverty as the motivator and NEVER EVER would call themselves a victim. That's the difference and that's why it's important for the black community to start self evaluating beginning with why they let dems pander to them insuring their vote and more poverty.

 

Victim of what? Their own stupidity? Not really seeing how you can make this a victim thing...

 

See the "objective data" does not prove cause and effect which you did not do. I would submit a child born in poverty is the victim. The odds against her getting out are high without intervention as the long history of "objective data" shows.

 

The odds of her getting out with good parenting are objectively increased. Your inability to see that as the case is your own short coming.

 

Self righteous snickering.....you got nothing else, as I said.

 

He made a good point. Your inability to see that is on you.

 

That is true, but how long have we been saying that and how well has that worked. We've passed out parenting manuals. They're still there.....

 

Yep it is true, and it hasn’t been tried in any serious manner. The black community is continuously being lied to by its thought leaders and democrats. Claiming they are in their position because whites people. They robbed someone because whites people. They marry the state, because whites people etc.

Any black thought leader who tells them the truth has his/her “black card” removed.

The reality is, its in the home this is fixed. Until they want to take responsibility for their lives, then they can and should remain where they are at.

It isn’t my responsibility to make someone further their life in a better direction by accepting responsibility.

 

I just sourced them stats, proving the opposite.
You either disprove this, or you be on ignore again.