Citizens allowed to die in Seattle

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  1. jay runner

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    This article is some kind of stupidity. I have never seen anything like it. There are protests in Russia and you could find more suitable material for the link. The difference is that in Russia the protests are socially political in nature. For example, against capitalism and for building a communist society of justice. And the number of supporters of communist ideas is growing exponentially. The growth of supporters is ahead of the scientific base. Because now there is a study of the causes of the destruction of socialism and scientifically based correction of the construction of such a society.
    The transition to a new social development is gradual. For example, scientists say that the transition from a slave system to a feudal system took 700 years. The transition from feudalism to capitalism is 500 years. There were periods of progress and periods of rollback, the so-called reaction. For example, there were the Republic of Venice, Milan ... practically capitalism, but then feudalism returned. Or for example France - under Napoleon it is a republic and capitalism, then monarchy and feudalism. But in the end, capitalism triumphed. Since at that time capitalism was a progressive social and political system. Now capitalism is a dead end. Therefore, the transition to communism is inevitable. But this requires a scientifically sound basis. Therefore, now the study of the causes of the collapse of the USSR is underway.
    This is a complicated process. But we must remember that the first communist state existed only in one city of Paris and a little more than a month. The second experience is the USSR, which has become the world's second economy and controlled the sex of the world. So everything is ahead. Just now we live in a reaction period.
    And if the protests in the United States are not a stupid discussion of slavery or something like that, but take the form of a class struggle, this will mean that the United States is moving towards progress. Otherwise, everything can turn out fatally for the country.
     
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    You're an expert. I'm not.
     
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    So just to be clear...these liberals seceded from the union? Welp. No federal/state aid and send in the tanks! Or just let them live in their own filth.

    Seattle is a shithole now.
     
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    this post is worthless without pictures
     
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    In my experience, the sort of women who can sunbathe naked without being harassed are not the sort of women we want to see pictures of. Nudist colonies are not, to my everlasting disappointment, generally filled with supermodels.
     
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    As the police refuse to go there, no one will ever know.
     
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    Sorry, guys. I'm streaming a feed from a drone ... definitely worth seeing .. those sunbathers ... whoa! ... but .. how do I make a permanet file?
    Actually, let's squash the intel about the naked sunbathers ... I'm in touch with a bunch of militia groups that are straining at the bit to go into
    Seattle and sort those folks out -- which would be a political disaster -- if they hear about those sunbathers there will be no stopping them.
     
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    Who in the hell would ever leave Tejas?
     
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    They are independent till they are not. Kinda like kids who move out of their parents house and yell
    About not needing them anymore, till their 6 packages of Top Ramen run out. Then they are not so independent!
     
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    I didn't deny that someone died ?? Nor is that question being addressed. ?! do note the difference between (??) and (?!). Chess notation.

    When you figure out what question is being addressed - and /or want to do something other than make false accusations (aka building a strawman.) - Do let me know :)
     
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    Moving the goal post? And spinning? Not surprising. How about just being honest for once instead of letting partisan hackery continue to divide this country?
     
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    I didn't move the goal post - nor did I deny that someone died. You are projecting your issues onto others.
     
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    They did not "allow" gun violence. That would be like saying "Why does the Mayor of Chicago allow gun violence"

    How did they "allow" gun violence .. and how are they "allowing" citizens to die ?

    The latter is a ridiculous claim and the former is unsupported.
     
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    These folks declared themselves autonomous. Do you even know what that means? Do you not get that it was their choice to allow folks with guns to be a part of their autonomy? No? How about the women getting raped in there? Do you suppose that it is a national problem? Face it. When you declare yourselves autonomous, you thumb your nose at the rest of authority, you declare yourselves independent of other government, just like CHAZ did. It's their failing then for whatever happens inside of their zone. So, the only thing that is ridiculous is your attempt at spin.
     
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    When there is a shooting, the police are the proper people to call. Sorry.
     
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    You are the one trying to spin things. What does "women getting raped" have to do with "Citizens being allowed to die"

    It is this claim that is spin.
     
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    When someone needs medical treatment - the Police are not the proper people to call.

    The claim on the table is "Citizens being allowed to die" Calling the paramedics - rather than the police - is "NOT" - Citizens being allowed to die.
     
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    In the sketchy neighborhoods(like CHAZ), the police and paramedics work as a team. If someone needs medical treatment in such neighborhoods, they aren't going to get the paramedics until the police show up and secure the scene.

    Blocking the police from accessing a scene where paramedics are needed IS citizens being allowed to die.
     
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    No it isn't - Paramedics often show up prior to - and/or without police so your claim is bunk - but even it true it would not be "allowing citizens to die" if attempts were made to bring the people needing medical attention to the paramedics.
     
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    In an area that isn't safe, the medics have to wait for the police to secure the area first, before rendering aid.
     
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    Unless the knuckleheads have defunded the police...then it’s up to Bill Murray and gang...
     
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    The area was safe. Next ?
     
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    I work with Cops, Firefighters, and EMT's (often dispatched out of a fire station)
    It is you who are wrong. Both EMT's and Firefighters in large cities all over America require police who are usually the first on the scene, to clear the area so the firefighters and/or EMT's can do their job.
    As for Chad/Chaz, this is now a totally different country and there is no requirement for any outside help from US police,fire, or medical personnel.
    It would be possible to launch the idiot mayor of Seattle over the wall armed with a tourniquet and a bottle of peroxide but she would be required to show proof of citizenship when leaving that country.
    [​IMG]
     
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    How many shooting victims would you need to see before you deemed an area unsafe?
     
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