First guns, now masks- WA Sheriffs continue to make me proud.

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To start, our state constitution legally defines the elected County Sheriff as 'the Chief Law Enforcement Official' within his/her jurisdiction. So this isn't just words.

    “In case you guys didn’t hear, Governor Inslee, in his infinite wisdom, has decided after over a hundred and some odd days that we should all wear face masks — inside and out. Here’s what I say: Don’t be a sheep.”

    Two of our Sheriffs, so far, seem to be refusing to enforce mandatory masks. They did this same thing in 2018 when WA (Seattle, really) passed a bunch of new nonsensical gun regs. Eventually 3/4 of the state refused to enforce them. I suspect this will be similar.

    FTR, they've made no indication that they plan to do anything to prevent anyone from wearing a mask or social distancing. They're just keeping it voluntary.

    https://www.infowars.com/video-washington-sheriff-on-governors-mask-law-dont-be-a-sheep/
     
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    Here's what I say: Masks definitively help reduce infections, this is an undeniable scientific fact based on an observable mechanical process. Reducing infections makes our country strong, our economy strong, and it protects our communities. The "sheep" are the FOOLS who don't see this because they've been blinded by the politics of the matter.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you think they should be mandatory?
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Yes I do. I believe we're morally justified to demand this of our citizens, scientifically justified by the evidence, and Constitutionally justified by the existing authority we grant government to manage public health and safety.
     
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    Actually, the science shows the opposite. The masks aren't really able to keep the aerosols(the small particles that distribute the virus) inside of the mask. Several studies have shown(with regards to the flu, etc) that there was no difference in transmission from mask wearing persons to those without masks.
     
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    Absolutely. Across the entire world. In every single corner of the world. Until this virus is dead.

    This is not a political issue.

    It's a medical issue.

    Wearing a mask drastically reduces transmission and therefore saves lives.

    I'm for saving lives, so I wear a mask.

    It's what thinking adults do.
     
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    This is absolutely untrue. Masks starkly reduce the rate, force, speed and size of transmission.

    Educate yourself:

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=studi...69faa4b459a86dbe0264682d2&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=ACTS
     
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    https://www.rcreader.com/commentary...uj7lkIGoGl3LjICv_VzxrV7UIPXR_LtotQ7UR3nkTAbME

    And here's a counter study(one that according to the author, was removed from the faculty in which he worked and he too was removed.)

    This is not okay, to censor other medical professionals just because a view counteracts the ideal governing view of the moment.
     
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    If that were the case, no one should be allowed to drive, to play football, to ski, to fly an airplane, or to engage in any other activity that poses a risk to others or onself.

    What you speak of is not "morals." What you speak of is tyranny. Masks have become the symbol of tyranny, and all who mandate them have become the agents of tyranny.
     
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    Willing to bet that was a misinterpretation of a study's findings. This stuff is so basic because its all mechanical. Capture efficacy of material porosity under pressure differential. Big scientific way of saying 'how much of this thing passes through this other thing when we breathe'. No matter what you put on your face you are helping to reduce the overall volume and coverage of COVID containing particles in the air.

    Ask yourself why we cover our mouths when we cough, or why a surgeon wears a mask when they operate. Its not a perfect guarantee of safety but then what in this world is ya know? Its something we can do to improve the situation and even if it were a longshot we should still all do it to protect our country and our citizens.
     
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    Not a misinterpretation, exactly what the article said. The same language used to discuss the inefficiency of the HCQ treatment. Whether we do it or not, apparently wouldn't mark a difference in rates.(cases for example are still going up in Asian countries where they profess they nearly always wear a mask.)

    The biggest thing we can do, is actually social distancing. That has been proven to work.
     
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    The world is full of medical issues, of which covid is just one of many. It's you and those like you that are making covid a political issue.
     
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    That is untrue.

    It's a medical issue.

    Which part of the word "medical" do you not understand?

    Better luck to you next time.
     
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    I had already stated it was a medical issue, "one of many." What part of that couldn't you understand?

    If you believed it was a medical issue, as I do, you wouldn't be pushing for political mandates to treat it.
     
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    The two sheriffs mentioned in that article are absolutely NOT from Seattle.

    They are from Lewis county which is in a low population area way to the south and Klikitat, which is a low population county in the south central Washington desert.

    Clark and Cowlitz counties are noted low population right wing enclaves in southwest WA.

    Suggesting that has ANYTHING to do with any of the significantly populated areas of WA is nonsense.

    - Why are these sheriffs using their PUBLIC authority to take the lead in refusing to follow the law? What made THEM the decision makers in what our laws should be?

    - They each have claimed that there is another side to mask wearing. But, none of them has ever stated what that other side might be.

    Being sheriff is NOT a public policy making position. They were hired to follow our laws, not MAKE our laws.

    These sheriffs really do warrant being arrested.
     
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    They just proved bejond doubt, that they are uneducated idiots..

    Welcome to the Darwin Club.
     
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    I know they're not from Seattle. Thats part of the point.

    I know they're in sparsely populated rural areas. Thats also part of the point.

    Why do you suppose Seattle (or Olympia) isn't responsible for appointing these Sheriffs, and instead they're elected by their respective counties?

    Who do you think should arrest the legitimately elected and constitutionally defined "Chief Law Enforcement Official"?
     
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    Absolutely, for too long we have let the feckless chains of tyrants prevent us from exercising our god-given right to defecate and micturate in the streets. Think of all the taxes you could save on unnecessary sewers if we didn't have to cater to the whims of liberal snowflake copraphobes. You get used to the smell and cholera isn't that bad.
     
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    The very definition of the office is to uphold the law.

    "Law enforcement" is not the same as "legislator" or "governor".

    It's not like Dodge City, where the quickest draw got chosen to be sheriff and he just made the law as he went along.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    K. But...

    Why do you suppose Seattle (or Olympia) isn't responsible for appointing these Sheriffs, and instead they're elected by their respective counties?

    Who do you think should arrest the legitimately elected and constitutionally defined "Chief Law Enforcement Official"?
     
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    I don't understand your question. You know full well that these are county offices. So, I don't think that's what you are asking.

    The fact that we have counties doesn't mean that there is no responsibility to state law.

    And, sheriffs do not even make law in their own counties.

    There is more than one mechanism for removing elected officials. The state governmet can certainly lock up a sheriff if they are breaking the law.

    Normaly speaking, sheriffs work within the law. We've moved beyond gunslinger sheriffs.

    I think we're all fully aware that there are those who don't like various laws.

    The idea of being opposed to wearing a mask hits me as TOTALLY childish.
     
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    Unfortunately, I live in Liberalville, so don't really have a choice.
     
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