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  1. garyd

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    Dozens of black businesses burned looted and destroyed while capering idiots pranced about them screaming Black lives matter though apparently not those of black businessmen and women whose lives and livelihoods they'd just destroyed. A statue commemorating the 54th Massachusetts regiment that served with distinction in the Civil an all African American desecration of the statue of Ulysses S Grant and Abraham Lincoln men indispensable to an early end to slavery in this country.

    None if this wanton distraction had anything to do with George Floyd. It was purely and literally a Marxist assault upon this country and it's institution. It was not even remotely a peaceful protest.
    That any rational person would defend this war of oppression against anyone and everyone who won't kiss the agitprop's ass should have been met with the full force of the law backed up by the national guard where necessary. Oh and one more thing if you are a black businessmans or woman you no longer have any reason whatever to support a Democratic party, or anyone else for that matter who stands in lock step with the mobs that destroyed your life's work.
     
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    You seem to understand the symbolism of statues, but not of George Floyd. I don't think protesters are focused on a single event. I don't think Floyd was the only black person who lost their life needlessly. I don't think most of the people in the street are focused on Marxism.
     
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    True. Most in the streets are the useful idiots Vladimir Lenin spoke of.
     
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    So they are what then? Useful idiots for those who organized their protests? Because the organizers actually are the marxists in this country.

    The awful truth here is that folks who find George Floyd to be a symbol seem to be remarkably tolerant when the dead perp isn't a black convict. When it was a white guy in Dallas, there wasn't a peep. When it was a white guy in St louis, there wasn't a peep. The marxists are manufacturing this astroturf that folks seem to be so moved by. Which, was the point that @garyd was making. As for the protests themselves, it is pretty hard to unwind all of the different marginal groups who have found a home in the mobs. For some, I'm sure it is just seeking a little publicity, for others, it seems they want to burn the place down.
     
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    LOL.. jinx...
     
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    Mobs, once they get started, don't, really tend to focus on much of anything except loot and pillage and murder. That's why turning them loose is always a bad idea.
     
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    There have been numerous cases where police were called to black areas- and set up for ambush. We don't see any marches or riots over such things, however. After all, they were cops, the risk of being killed is just part of the job.

    20 years ago, two black brothers invaded and apartment where a group of 5 friends were gathered. They took all the property, tortured, raped and abused them, then took all 5 out to a remote soccer field in the dead of winter. Made them all strip naked, then shot them all in the head. Then- left in the victims vehicle. One of the victims suffered a grazing hit, but pretended to be dead, and lived. When the brothers left, she walked about 1/2 mile in the snow- naked- to a distant light, a farm house. The brothers were quickly caught, the evidence was overwhelming, and the were sentenced to death. No lynch mobs formed however, and no riots took place. Justice was in progress. However, it is now 20 years later- and those brothers are still evading the sentence, costing the taxpayers until millions, being fed, housed and cared for at taxpayer expense. Did you decry the injustice of that? Do you even give a rats ass about such things?

    George was a thug. He did not deserve to die in the way he did- but the significance is hardly like that of Mother Teresa being killed while praying, and that is the equivalent to the way the left portrays Georges death. And while the Minneapolis police and almost all police immediately called it right and took action- the gangstas didn't really care. Floyd George obviously isn't the reason. Unjust deaths caused by police isn't the reason either- these things are clearly the excuse, the justification, the social shield that protects thugs and rioters from accountability. That's left-think; but they set a precedent here that will backfire on them as well.

    Every year, there are numerous law enforcement officers killed in ambush attacks- more than are wrongfully killed by police when confrontations or arrests get out of control.
    Does that bother you?

    IF you don't care about justice for all- you don't care about justice for anyone but yourself.
    I don't see anyone on the left caring about justice.
     
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    The insurrection of the left is eventually going to have to be put down by average joes and its not going to be pretty or nice when it happens.
     
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    I assume you support the Second Amendment. Do you support the First?
     
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    I assume you are trying to use the first amendment as a shield for the violent and lawless behavior we are currently witnessing. It doesnt work that way.
     
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    The first amendment does not recognize felony crimes as free speech. Nor extortion, nor assault on a police officer, or threats to burn your city down, etc.
    The constitution does support martial law when cities are taken over by gangsters, and that can include shooting violent criminals on sight.

    I will support the right to peaceful protest. Peaceful in fact, not as a BS excuse. That is a first amendment right.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    There's nothing there that protects gangsters, rioters, thugs of any kind, or any criminal action. ANY group who exceeds the PEACEFUL limitation of the first amendment become gangsters- violent criminals; and people in the midst of committing violent crimes have abandoned their civil rights, because they are destroying the rights of law abiding people. Anything that happens to them- they brought on themselves. It is only through the tolerance of good people that that dire consequences that should apply have not already fallen on them, and it's overdue.
     
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    I'm not seeing even one scintilla of sympathy for burnt-out black businesses. THAT symbolism matters.
     
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    Consider how few Democrats are good shots compared to conservatives. They'll waste ten magazines trying to hit a barn. As for returning fire? Two shots, tops --- wind velocity and all that.

    I know a guy..... Heckuva deal on Garands. Dirt-cheap for Democrat cardholders.
     
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    It used to be that crime was stopped by arresting those that break the law, not taking the right of a group of people away.
     
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    Seattle instantly disproves your contention. So what's happening in Seattle is "taking the right of a group of people away"...? What about their victims, the residents and businesses within their jackboots jurisdiction?

    Leftists refuse to arrest these morons. It used to be Democrats upheld the law..at least while the public was looking. Can't wait for the November blowback on that spinelessness!
     
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    That is still the rule of law, except for those who want no law, and who instantly suppress the free speech of any who criticize them for that. Riot, arson and assault are not rights, they are crimes.
    The first criminals in what has been going on have been the people calling themselves peaceful protestors while destroying entire neighborhoods. The second is malfeasance in office of the mayors, city councils and governors who lack the courage to back up their own police and commit a form of treason, leaving the citizens they serve to the mercy of gangsters. Both of those are heinous crimes in my opinion; both need harsh punishment.

    Who do you think is having their rights taken away? Rioters and arsonists- or their victims, the public that is not being protected by the people paid to maintain law and order?
     
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    Rioting and burning and looting is not free speech it is criminal conduct. Blocking traffic on the highway is not free speech it is criminal and stupid. Commondeering a section of a large city and claiming it as your own country is not free speech it is rebellion same as the South in the civil war.
     
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