China contemplating an EMP "Pearl Harbor" attack on the US.

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  1. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Google this - see how many modern generators use a "magneto"? Lol

    Not to mention the lack of any generators that do not use ANY electronics! Keeping a generator properly synced and regulated is not a job for a "magneto"! Lol!

    And your "ask a prepper" was didn't even address that issue of a modern generator! There are plenty of electronics there, and much of their other examples, too.
     
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    a generator gives him power for a week longer than the poor when the commies shut power

    he can get propane delivered and outlast any stress test by the government.
     
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    The Washington Examiner is not a credible source.

    The story is just fantastic scenarios contrived by the Pentagon to justify their budget and actions.
     
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    My point is that a "magneto" is not used for any purpose like a gasoline generator for a long, long time.

    Currently (as in the last several decades and longer), managing the power from a power source like a gas generator (or solar panels, etc) is managed by a charge controller and other electronics to make that power useable for anything.

    Those electronics become useless bricks when given a high voltage/amperage surge.

    What even makes EMP surge (from a nuke or from sun stores) is the clever use of highly conductive material, think of it like carbon designed to be electrosticly "sticky", spread around an area which blankets everything and shorts out everything and makes both sophisticated electronics and even just good ole wire or power lines, unless sealed tightly (and constantly maintained).

    This can be done in a small area, a local neighborhood, or can be exploded by a bomb to cover entire cities and make electricity pretty useless. No power and much electronics useless. But undeductible by radiation, obvious remote inspection, even uninformed local inspection.

    Interesting that an attacker could shut down a city with being charged with only "littering".
     
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    they wouldn't allow an EMP because it cuts power to rich communities.
     
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    Is this a surprise to anyone? Their military would be pretty negligent if they weren’t contemplating this. Just as American and Russian and British and French and Israeli and Indian military (and many others) would be negligent if they didn’t contemplate and work through the consequences of attacking an adversary or being attacked by an adversary in every way imaginable.
    It’s called preparation.

    Seriously - the headline should be, “Chinese military does its job”.
     
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  7. Shook

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    Oh, then by all means go ahead and cheer for the chi-coms. bX4 wouldn't want the chi-com military to be negligent.

    Thanks, bx4.
     
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    I’m not cheering for them in any way. On the contrary, I think China has taken advantage of the rest of the world for decades. One of the (few) good things trump has done is to bring that issue to the front burner.

    But seriously, is anyone surprised that the Chinese military is playing out a variety of different military scenarios? I can say their leadership would be negligent not to do it while at the same time hoping that they WILL be negligent.

    Experience has taught me, however, that relying on wishful thinking is not a sound strategy in the long run.
     
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    To the extent that's true, I guess we can all be thankful.
     
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    I learned that before I became a teenager. I wonder how long it will take trump supporters to learn that lesson.
    That’s beside the point. Anyone who is shocked that military leadership in any country is playing out military scenarios and options is ... well ... a little naïve.
     
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    No one has said anyone is shocked -- or even surprised -- about anything.
     
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    Ummmm - you might want to go back and read your original post. You said China’s behaviour was shocking.
    That’s what I was responding to. I am quite capable of thinking their behaviour is reprehensible without finding it shocking.
    Kind of how I feel about trump. I find a lot of what he does reprehensible, but because he has lowered the bar so much, I am not at all surprised by his reprehensible behaviour.
     
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    China's overall aggressive posture is shocking. Their unleashing a killer virus on the world is shocking. Their treatment of their own people is also shocking. Chi-coms are on the offensive, shockingly bad people. The rest of your post is just semantics, as one might expect to find from an academic aspirant.

    Trump is the best President to come along in our lifetime, and we are very fortunate that he did. Thank you.

    Anyway, I would ask you, what about Trump's behavior do you find reprehensible? More important, what difference has whatever it is that bothers you about him made, in your opinion?

    You know, Obama was a good nose picker. I find that reprehensible but he did it very well. It was not, however, as offensive as his bowing to everyone he visited, including the world's most renown genocidal killers.
     
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    Congress has not passed specific legislation to hunt down the hackers, prosecute them vigorously, and punish them with very severe penalties as a deterrent. They haven't made it policy to ream these brownholes a new one.
     
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    China is not wishy washy like the USA. They're in it to win it. Why wouldn't they be planning multiple avenues of attack?
     
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    I bought my Generator back in the 1970's, so I guess ya'all will be sitting in the dark while my air conditioner is running.
     
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    America is not wishy-washy, but it is very badly hamstrung, mainly by minorities, to their own extreme detriment and possible extinction.

    Make Lincoln great again.
     
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    Not sure why you took a detour on the subject, but unauthorized hacking is illegal. There are plenty of well known cases.

    https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/hacking-laws-and-punishments.html
     

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