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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Try to think this through. People like you are also customers, albeit selfish and obstinate ones. They have trouble enforcing their personal policy without losing other customers like you. A Statute works because the government takes the heat with the ordinance, and all businesses start with the same level playing field. And trust me, people like me will report noncompliance so you don't have to worry about making the phone call. I am here to help.
     
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  2. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    BS

    The business are the one expected to enforce such legislative nonsense. They are the ones fined by the govt for violations, not the customers. The business are not trained nor equipped to do this nonsense. The “drop and go” legislative bodies are hurting business by placing yet one more burden upon them.

    Its not customers causing this impact on businesses, it’s the legislative bodies in their group think attempt to look like that are doing something constructive.

    Let business manage business, no need for Nancy Pelosi to call for federal mask mandates. Besides how is she going to stuff ice cream in that garbage mouth if hers if it has a mask over it?

    BTW do you think if a business dictated whites had to mask up but minorities did not that it would fly? You know like those fine elected officials in OR did...
     
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    You do NOT want to get me started on "service dogs." There is a tenant in my building that has a dog at LEAST 50 lbs. heavier than the allowed weight for a service animal. He is very aggressive and tried to kill a few of the other neighbors' dogs. It got so bad that management issued them a warning (pre-eviction) and the owner is only allowed to walk the dog along a path about a mile away. It's ridiculous. Oh, and my next door neighbor has three cats which are supposedly her "therapy cats." I don't doubt she has some mental health issues and finds them helpful, but some of us don't want to be accosted because you think your cats are cute.

    I'm all for people having pets and even service dogs but some don't seem to understand that not everybody loves your animal the way you do and we shouldn't be forced to have them around because it might hurt their feelings to be left in a vehicle for a few minutes while you run into 7-11 (and, no, I'm not suggesting to leave an animal in the car for longer trips to the store. Leave them at home and don't expect somebody else to want your pet around their food).
     
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    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Another whining post full of libertarian lard . I am soo surprised. Business does a crappy job of taking care of even their own business let alone the community. That's why we have child labor laws, civil rights laws, minimum wage laws, consumer laws, OSHA regulations, fire codes, and handicapped access legislation. Its why we insist that restaurants not serve meat that sat out on the counter for 6 hours. Yet after all that 'micromanaging', we still had a booming economy full of sufficient business and entrepreneurial support that Trump was bragging about it for the last 3 years. I don't think a mask regulation will turn them into dust
     
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  5. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    Oh your one of those “we need the nanny state to survive” types...

    No reasoning with that type I have found. You want to hang on the apron strings from cradle to grave. In short you’ve never really grown up and moved out of your parents house.

    Nothing more to say.
     
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    As capitalist entities, businesses are motivated to internalize as few of their costs as possible. If they can dump their garbage in the river rather than paying for proper disposal, THAT is what they will do as it is consistent with the sole objective - maximizing profit. If they can pay people too little to survive on, that is what they will do. Etc.

    I have NO idea why you would think that our society would put up with that. It's the pure lunacy of those who can't see past libertatrian dreams.

    Capitalism is a pretty cool tool, but it is not the solution to all issues. There are things that humans require that capitalism has no interest in supplying.
     
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    I think it you who never left Momma's basement, used to cry I donna want that soup.
     
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    If we finally get a reasonably good COVID vaccine, do you think people will go out and get vaccinated?

    There is sure to be an active anti-vax response. It's more invasive than wearing a mask, and there are those who somehow equate mask wearing to tyranny. We have peole who won't get vaccinated for flu or even measels!!
     
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    What's happening is a severe lack of leadership.

    One ends up with those who listen to best practices from medical science encountering those who don't care about the health or wellbeing of anyone other than themselves.

    Unfortunately, we seem to be at a serious leadership low point in our history as a nation.
     
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    While that is true in a sense the sheer number of infected in the USA make the entire country a virtual “hot zone”
     
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    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    Man get a new line.

    I left the day after my 19th B Day for MCRD San Diego. Still have not moved back home and that was in 1987 :)
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    Thanks for your service.

    But, the Marines doesn't train people to berate those who worked out ways to succeed on their own.

    What you should have learned includes the fact that we can achieve better outcomes by working together.

    So yes, when one citizen is more at risk of COVID it rightfully DOES mean that others should take care rather than laughing at them for the concern they show. And when leadership including medical science projects a policy direction, your training was not designed for you to laugh at that, either.
     
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    Nonsense. I OWN a business. You come into my business without a mask and refuse to mask up or leave...I call the cops. It's that simple. I have more than adequate signage so there is no misunderstanding.

    If that offends that kind of customers ...that's too bad. The rest of my customers appreciate that I run a safe place.
     
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    But that has been an issue for years

    How many years have they ignored the very real death toll associated with unrestricted gun ownership and lax gun regulation
     
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    It took me a minute to work it out :p
     
  18. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    I had soup for dinner tonight, broccoli and cheese.

    What is that babbling other stuff about? It lack a coherent narrative to follow.
     
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    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    Lax gun regulation in the US? We have 1000s of laws on firearms..it’s anything but lax...
     
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    One more comment.
    All your silly arguments failed and than you pull the typical US card, I served.
    You got a automatic respond, thank you for your service.
    You went into the military at that time, because you had no chance at all to find a job.
    Probably from a backwater county. No chance for college.
    High school, useless, the only chance to get out of that cycle.

    Just the standard faith for millions of young Americans. Nothing special.

    But as a Marine you should understand, how to protect your fellow Marine, even if it means to put a mask on.

    That is what us real Soldiers learn on day one, its not about you, it is about US. You fail the whole unit fails.
    I do not think that you are a Marine, because you do not understand that principal.
    If you are actually one, than you are a complete failure, because you put your personnel freedoms, above the safety of the unit.
    Iam sure glad that you never, ever served in any units I was in.
    Or lets say you are very glad, because I would have taken you apart, one piece at a time, till you either quit or become a useful member of the Unit
     
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    We have lax gun regulation.

    You can't measure gun regulation by the pound of crappy rules designed by those who opposed making ANY move to mitigate the serious problem we have.

    The argument I like best?

    "It's just tooo soon to consider doing anything about it."

    Stated after mowing down children in various schools, mass killing in a night club, etc., etc.
     
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    I would consider a hot zone a area where numbers look like they are gonna overwhelm the hospitals in a week or two, and we do have a few of those popping up right now in CA,TX and FL

    the best time to catch the virus is when hospitals have plenty of beds and staff
     
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    will white Trump get an exemption from wearing a mask?

    if so, it's not just blacks getting the exemption...

    I say no one should be above any law, either enforce it equally or do not have it
     
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    There are those with actual breathng issues - but they should probably never come out regardless.

    Also, those masks with valves really need to be trashed.

    The whole idea is to slow/filter escaping air. And, those valves are put there for the specific purpose of preventing that from happening.
     
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    that is why I say make it optional for everyone - I do not think it can be enforced and anyone can make an excuse
     

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