Hospitals shutting down, unable to stay financially afloat

They are now but in the beginning they shutdown due to predicted covid numbers that never happened

 

No - I don't. They, like other businesses, were forced into a box by this virus. And, like other businesses, if they don't have enough money to last through the lean times, then they go out of business.

So often, I've read people condemning others for not having enough savings to make it through a tough time. That they are living above their means and if they'd just cut back, they'd be okay. Well, now I'm saying that about private hospitals. They make a sh!t ton of money off Americans - so why did a couple of months with no elective surgeries send them to bankruptcy?

 

Apparently these “greedy” private hospitals were not bringing in the cash you thought they were huh. Apparently they were not making the “**** load of money “ off Americans you accused them of.
Obviously a socialist like you just can’t grasp the overhead involved in a business such as this and think they should be able to stay afloat for months with little to no income. This is not you paying rent and utilities it’s a business paying hundreds of doctors and nurses and janitors and ambulance drivers and and and.

 

Trump is a rightie, you need to thank Trump for the Shutdown

Trump said his shutdown saved millions of lives, are you calling Trump a liar?

 

the real problem is America's diet, high carbs and heavily processed seed oils, and it is now spreading throughout the world, not even a national health care plan will be able to survive that - metabolic diseases are on the rise and no slowdown is in sight, cause to fix it would upset the mega corporations bottom line

the health of corporations rises above the health of the people

 

Yes - the orders from the governor required hospitals to become prepared for COVID. If they were so prepared and could remain so (given case load, etc.) they were free to perform procedures as usual.

That newspaper article you posted did NOT support what YOU said.

AND, it was from a month ago - making it look like Spokane had nothing to worry about.

But, today we know that is not true - that being prepared for COVID cases in Spokane and other eastern Washington and lower populaton southwest Washington counties has been signifinatly important, as those have become hot spots.

Suggesting Inslee didn't handle this situation well is just plain BS. We had limited informatin as it was a new threat. The steps taken have been shown to be correct, even though there was limited information.

 

I think you'll find ambulance drivers work for private companies that service the hospitals. And, likely, several of the other service folks who work there. But please, carry on defending private hospitals.

 

The state level mandate was one of achieving a level of preparedness and then maintaining that state. The level of preparedness had to do with mainteanantce of adequate PPE, and other such steps that are obviously scaled to the size of the operations of each indiidual hospital.

Hospitals that met those guidelines were free to continue operation as usual.

I think we have to care about all our hospitals, large and small. We've chosen to make provision of healthcare a business venture, so that ends up meaning we have to care about that, too.

Over the last years, smaller hospitals have been hit pretty hard by factors other than COVID, causing a lot of closures.

 

For sure. I listened to this guy argue about the great low cost healthcare system in Switzerland and Japan and how America should adopt it.

Japan has one of the healthiest diets and Switzerland is one of the most physically active nations on earth. If they had to take care of fat-ass Americans the numbers would be very different.

 

I do agree with single payer.... just do not think unless we address the diet situation, it's gonna matter one way or the other


even Japan and Switzerland are starting to be affected by the American Corporate diet, were the SAD (Standard American Diet) goes, so declines health

 

People (socialist) or dare I say communist like you just hate anything with the word private associated with it. Please carry on trashing private hospitals and tell us how government could run them so much better.

 

My point was whether Covid numbers happened or not, at a local level, it would be easy to turn on and off elective surgeries always allowing for hospital beds...

 

If your hospital was at 75% capacity and suddenly you had need for every room for Covid patients they would be screwed. This was the scenario the CDC told hospitals to prepare for

 

It wasn't lack of capacity that they shut down elective surgery for. It was the lack of country wide PPE's.

 

The shutdown was pushed by the liberal media and politicians, Trump caved in to it. He should not have.

How many times we gonna cover this before you get it?

 

Trump issued the shutdown guidelines, he is the President, your claims that he is a #weakPresident may be correct, but he is our President

Trump said his shutdown saved millions of lives, are you calling Trump a liar?

 

That theory makes no sense. Try again or attempt to explain it.

 

Lol.

It isnt a free market when the government mandates they shut down.

 

They were disallowed by Governor mandate in my state.

 

You never disappoint.

CMS Adult Elective Surgery and Procedures Recommendations: Limit all non-essential planned surgeries and procedures, including dental, until further notice To aggressively address COVID-19, CMS recognizes that conservation of critical resources such as ventilators and Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) is essential, as well as limiting exposure of patients and staff to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Attached is guidance to limit non-essential adult elective surgery and medical and surgical procedures, including all dental procedures. These considerations will assist in the management of vital healthcare resources during this public health emergency.

https://www.cms.gov/files/document/covid-elective-surgery-recommendations.pdf

 

Feel free to tell me how not admitting Covid patients because you don’t have PPE necessitates shutting down elective surgery and dentist offices.
And then there’s this.
“Hospitals preparing for an influx of coronavirus patients are canceling some surgeries and moving routine care to virtual visits, an effort to make room for critically ill “

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/ho...ake-room-for-coronavirus-patients-11584298575

 

Huh?

 

Huh?

 

Not admitting covid patients?
What do doctors and dentists do? They wear masks.

 

“Hospitals preparing for an influx of coronavirus patients are canceling some surgeries and moving routine care to virtual visits, an effort to make room for critically ill “

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/ho...ake-room-for-coronavirus-patients-