18-year-old charged for assaulting Macy’s staffer caught on viral video

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    I do. Why?
     
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    So how dark does someones skin have to be to class them as black?
    And what was the real reason the news coverage slowed to a crawl?
     
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    If you support excessive force, then you side with criminals.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I noticed, is that STILL a fashion?
     
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    I don't think the force was excessive. They were trying to put pressure on nerves around neck arteries to knock him out and make him sleep for a while..
    This is standard procedure, and police did a right thing. What else they supposed to do? To beat him up and crush his skull and legs?
    The problem was that guy had a weak heart poisoned by cocaine, so he just has died of the natural causes.
     
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    Michael brown charged at a cop. I dare you to try the same thing. The result will be the same regardless of race
     
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    ok so lets go with your assertion he was black, even though he was a light skin arab. you must therefore also agree that All of the Ancient Egyptian Dynasties were black too.

    see, you cant have it both ways. youll have to concede ground one way or the other ok.
     
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    apparently so.
     
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    That's one thing I've noticed about blacks, once something catches on with them it stays around. I recall hearing one guy using the term "right on" in 2011, and acting as if it was really the height of ebonics.
     
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    old school nostalgia never dies. them pants need to go though!
     
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    Define "light skin arab", then explain how they are "black".

    If you need a DNA test, or phenotypical scale, please make such a demand plain.
     
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    What's excessive? In a fight it's the guy who brings the most of everything to it that wins, cops have to win. Don't do things to bring yourself into their area to control and if you do be polite, answer questions respectfully and never ever run or fight. You'll go home ok.
     
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    IMO, lefties have to pretend not to know that.
     
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    As ancient Egypt was, and is part of the African continent; yes they were black.
    But again, what is the demarcation of skin color that says someone is black?
    Do we pull out some paint swatches and compare them to someones skin, then decide "Black" or Not black". And if so, what classification would Obama be in?
     
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    If Egyptians and Berbers are "black", then Japanese are "white", I guess.

    Or...and this is just a suggestion, the racial categorization invented a couple centuries by European racist pseudo-scientists, is not fit for the 21st century.
     
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    im not the one who suggested light skin arab was black, neil was.
     
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    depends on the context and whom we are discussing with and their depth of knowledge.
     
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    who said berbers were black? ancient egyptians were thousands of years prior to berbers. berbers are a product of the arab and european invasions of north africa, before the berbers it was phoenicians who were a black ppl according to scripture.
     
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    phoenicians were canaanites, who by turn are sons of ham. ham was the progenitor of the blacks races from africa ie ethipia, egypt, somalia, sudan etc.

    According to the Table of Nations in Genesis 10 (verses 15-19), Canaan was the ancestor of the tribes who originally occupied the ancient Land of Canaan: all the territory from Sidon or Hamath in the north to Gaza in the southwest and Lasha in the southeast. This territory, known as the Levant, is roughly the areas of modern-day Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, western Jordan, and western Syria. Canaan's firstborn son was Sidon, who shares his name with the Phoenician city of Sidon in present-day Lebanon
     
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    according to genesis; Ham's descendants: The forefather of Cush, Egypt, and Put, and of Canaan, whose lands include portions of Africa, Arabia, Syria-Palestine and Mesopotamia.
     
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    Someone further up said all Africans were black. Your racist beliefs about Berbers as being "a product of arab and european invasions" is just disgusting racist pseudo-history. Phonecians weren't "black", either.

    And "Ham"? Seriously, what sort of ignorant belief do you represent? Some sort of perverse mix between a religious fanatic and racist?
     
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    have you finished your rant yet?

    care to refute anything posted or just a knicker wetting episode again?
     
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    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Berber

    and as for Phoenicians:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668035/

    So no, Berbers are not a mix of invading Europeans and Arabs and Phoenicians aren't from present day Nigeria, either, Esau. Apparantly everyone who isn't Turkish seems to be from West Africa according to your weird race belief system. What do you (also) have against Arabs, now? You a member of the "Ülkü Ocaklari" group or something? You realize that most Arab speakers outside of the Arabian peninsula, are simply Arab-speakers rather than people who descended from Arab invaders, right? The Arabs didn't kill off all the Egyptians, other North Africans, nor the various peoples of the Levant. Black Americans speak English. Doesn't make them the same people genetically as the old Anglo-Saxons, either. Apply the same logic to the Arab speakers of the Levant and North Africa, instead of your bizarre racist theories.
     
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    Wrong Answer!!!

    Anyone, cop or not, should be tried, and if guilty imprisoned. I also believe that anyone has the right to self-defense. That includes cops. Every police involved shootings are thoroughly investigated by the Department's Internal Affairs. In some states, like here in Virginia, any police involved shooting from a city police officers or with a county sheriff, the case in investigated by their state police. Along with these investigations, there is another. This one conducted by the District Attorney's office. When the Prosecutor thinks he has enough evidence, then he will present the case to a grand jury. If the grand jury does not issue an indictment. (It has been said many times, that a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich.) Then that is the end of it. But if the grand jury does issue an indictment, then the case will move to a jury trial. This is where things get tricky. In many cases, the jury has stated that they did not find the prosecutor's case was compelling enough to be considered "beyond a reasonable doubt". Yet, the majority of the acquittals stem from the prosecutor overcharging the case.
     
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    do citizens have a right to self defense against a cop they see as a threat?

    cops have the power of the badge and with that come great responsibility and more punishment when they use the power of the badge to murder or abuse someone
     
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