Trump criticizes NASCAR ban on Confederate flags and attacks Black driver, NFL and MLB teams

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  1. MrTLegal

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    I never said that US mortality rate is incompetence.

    I said Trump's utter failure to limit the destruction of this virus on American lives and the economy was sheer ****ing incompetence. That necessarily includes the deaths (~130,000), the cases (~3 million), the failure to flatten the curve, the slow ramp up of testing, the downplaying the threat of the virus, the lying about the virus, the touting the benefits of the virus, the 11.1% unemployment rate, the claim that this virus would disappear, the unwillingness to wear a mask, the verbal assault on those wearing a mask, the demand that supporters appear en masse in a closed space to cheer him on during the pandemic, the fact that he repeatedly attacked governors and any other healthcare professional that he viewed as insufficiently appreciative, the fact that he suggested injecting *******n disinfectant as a potential treatment, AND the mortality rate which is currently around 7.5-8.25% and thus markedly worse than countries like Germany, Switzerland, China, and Iran.

    But do please feel free to try and make another stab at touting trump's successful handling of the pandemic if you'd like to see another one of your arguments destroyed.

    P.S. For anyone actually curious as to why my mortality calculation is markedly different from one in the chart from the Fox News, understand that I am using Deaths / Total Resolved (i.e. deaths + recoveries). The number reported by the New York Times compares Deaths against total cases, but this method presumes that everyone who is currently sick with the virus (and that number is over one million in the US alone) will recover eventually.
     
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    Is this Bubba Watson fella related to that George Kirby fella?

    It's hard to believe the left gives a **** about blacks when they don't even know their names.
     
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    No, Trump is implying that the media give just 1/100 of the time that they spent reporting this as systemic racism, White supremacy to reporting this was a false claim and racism was never an issue. You know, like with Jusse Smollett and the Covington kids, or how the media has covered that MO couple guarding their home with guns stating racism. However the media won’t say one word about the hundreds of Blacks, young children included being gunned down by other Blacks in the last 6 weeks.

    At least eight people were killed and more than 44 people were shot as New York City saw its surge in violence continue throughout the Fourth of July weekend, according to multiple reports.
    CHICAGO (CBS) — Nearly 80 people have been shot in Chicago since Friday night this July 4th holiday weekend, and 15 of them have been killed.

    Twelve of the weekend shooting victims were under age 18. Two of the 12 were killed.

    ATLANTA (CBS46) -- Multiple people were shot and five people are dead after a violent Fourth of July holiday weekend in Atlanta.

    At least 24 people were shot in and around metro Atlanta overnight Saturday into Sunday evening. Four people have died, with one of those shootings taking the life of an 8-year-old girl.

    A 6-year-old boy and a 15-year-old are among at least six people who were killed in a violent Fourth of July weekend in Philadelphia.

    There were at least 16 separate shootings in Philadelphia on Saturday and Sunday, NBC 10 is reporting.
     
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    because he lied and took advantage of the death of george to try to make a name for himself

    it was a rope it was there to pull down the garage door. it had been there. what he did was disgusting and pathetic
     
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    He already has.
     
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    Bubba Wallace should apologize after Donald Trump apologizes to the Central Park Five.
     
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    The irony of accusing the left of not caring about "blacks" while you reference a guy that died of Parkinsons in 1995 and not any of the African Americans that died more recently?

    Do you recognize the names like Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, Atatiana Jefferson, Aura Rosser, Stephon Clark, Philando Castille, Alton Sterling, Michelle Cusseaux, Freddie Gray, Janisha Fonville, Eric Garner, or Akai Gurley, Tamir Rice, or Gabriella Nevarez?
     
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    If you or Trump truly care about people shot and killed during that time period, then you need to be willing to join the Democrats that have repeatedly called on Trump to take more actions against Gun Violence instead of whimpering in silence because his sole political strategy is to appeal to the base of supporters that already support him - and those folks, by and large, do not take kindly to any type of restrictions on firearms.

    Also, it is the height of absurdity to claim that Trump - who did not reference or tag any media organization in that tweet and specifically demanded Bubba Wallace do something - was not actually targeting Bubba Wallace and was instead targeting the media.

    Finally, you need to stop intentionally editing my posts by refusing to even quote the entire sentence. It is a PF rule violation.
     
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    Bubba Wallace did not file or lodge any complaint, so what the **** do you think he did that was so disgusting and pathetic?
     
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    really? why was the fbi looking into this? why was this in the news? who made the claim there was some racist thing that happened?
     
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    I think it is good that this country has at least one politician who refuses to surrender to BLM.
     
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    The percentage of Americans who agree with you and already support Donald Trump is 100%.
     
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    He makes the claim because the President of NASCAR makes the claim and is launching an investigation. And this guy had a top 10 finish while your Trump 2020 driver wrecked in the pitt crew after 15 laps.

    And that, my best guess, is the reason why Trump demanded an apology one week after the FBI determined that there was no hoax.

    But let's turn to the other aspect of Trump's attack - why do you think Trump is incapable of taking a position on the Confederate flag?
     
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    :) He is such a snowflaky whiner...…...notice how whiners never accomplish any good..
     
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    Bubba played it up and I have no issue with that, name recognition is king here for his pocketbook. I didn't say it should be an issue for Trump but he obviously feels this over the top media pushing every f'ing thing is some how racist and political correctness, is going to far. Personally I think he should've stayed out of this but let's be honest here all this black on black killing each other is getting old, all this every single time anything happens it's racist is getting old, and all this over the top all white people are racist is getting old. I'm not racist, my family didn't own slaves, and my relatives didn't fight for the confederate, so I think all this election year faux racism by dems is a big big turn off and appreciate someone at least standing up and say enough. Don't get me wrong, I want some common sense reforms of police brutality but the rest is simply election year pandering by the left.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol: Can't keep up?

     
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    Typical lib, take the words and imply he means something. The words are clear, he ask a question period. I personally think asking the question was a dumb move but when you lefties try to make it something it's not, my give a f meter moves back to Trump's side.
     
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    i am curious if you realize how silly you sound?

    so the president of nascar was walking around the pit and saw this rope and went to the media?

    your own link proves otherwise

    i don’t watch nascar so don’t care...didn’t know t trump even had a car.

    nice deflection though...this reminds me of your jessie thread

    as far as the confederate flag...what position is there to take? the dems lost the war...we freed your slaves. if people still want to fly it...it’s up to them....just like how dems burn the american flag and rip down monuments to frederick douglas
     
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    You and I both know that "asking a question" is not a defense, nor is it always a question.

    If someone comes up to you and asks, "Are you stupid or something?" You and I both know that your immediate interpretation is not to think, "Oh, he just wants to know if I am intelligent."
     
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    Well...NASCAR banned it from their events and Mississippi voted to remove it from their State Flag. So that's a couple of positions (i.e. no longer permitting its use at your events) that one could take. On the other hand, you have folks on this forum who try to fly the confederate flag right beside the American flag which, if you think about it, is akin to denouncing gay marriage while engaging in a gay sex act.

    Meanwhile, Trump, who went out of his way to criticize NASCAR for that decision and blamed it for their lower TV ratings went on to claime that he has no position, one way or the other, regarding the confederate flag. For a guy who has an opinion on everything, isn't that the most cowardly position?

    Also, you know the likelihood of someone who is actually aligned with Black Lives Matter deciding to knowingly tear down a statute of Frederick Douglas is extremely low.
     
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    What I know is what he wrote is not what you said counselor.
     
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    I said that he demanded Bubba Wallace apologize for the hoax and he criticized NASCAR for their decision to ban the confederate flag.

    That is precisely what he wrote.
     
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    Who on this forum fly's an American flag beside a confederate flag? I think the point is very very clear, you don't always have to appease the PC crowd, we don't have to change brand names that aren't remotely close to racist, to appease the pandering dems during an election year.
     

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