Covid-19 is here to stay

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  1. Josephwalker

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    US has tested more people than any other country so it stands to reason that will skew the survival numbers in our favor. The more asymptomatic cases we discover the higher our survival rate will be. Paradoxically if you tested nobody and only went by very sick patients showing up at hospitals your survival rate would be awful. See how that works?
     
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    Prove them wrong.
     
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    CNN has lost all credibility. If they say anything about Trump its a lie or a distortion.
     
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    You haven’t made any effort to back up your claim.
    I have posted a link with verifiable data to show you are wrong. You claim the link is a lie but you have not pointed to anything in the CNN story that is factually wrong.

    Typical trumpian bluster.
     
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    CNN has become such a joke that using them as source is also a joke. The emphasis is on you to prove they are right because the default position is they are lying.
     
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    You made the original claim. Prove it.
     
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    Is how you put them their
    You can’t convince people who are deceiving themselves.

    Baghdad Joe claimed the U.S. had the lowest death rate “per confirmed Covid19 positive”, and any above average intelligent person knows that HE’S WRONG!
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WHAT ARE THE SOCIETAL ELEMENTS OF INCOME DISPARITY?

    I notice that a LOT of them are sick-'n-tired of this fool in the White House.

    The sooner he's gone permanently the better-off will be the nation. He was born a fool and brought-up a fool as well. The only aspect of his life that is understandable is his ability nonetheless to make one helluva lotta money - and in a country obsessed with financial success that goes a long way.

    It shouldn't. But it does. And I am most certainly not the only one who thinks that of Americans. Our fascination with monetary riches is going to drive the country into a wall it is so idiosyncratic.

    There are other aspects that are far more important to a lifestyle. Like tackling the severe problem of Income Inequality in the US. Which is defined as (from here):
    The above constitutes a key element to the undermining of many a nation that inevitably comes apart because of the far-too-wide disparity of incomes. It underlines a problem that is deeply unique to the US because the country does not understand that lowering upper-income taxation inevitably enhances the disparity. And so what?

    So this (from here):
    'Nuff said? Probably not ...
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easier said than done.

    Have a go at it. See for yourself ...
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a truly rare event. From WashPo, here:
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh come off it, will you?!?

    Covide-19 was killing people first in China then in the Europe LONGGGGGGGGG before it hit the US. Do you-plural ever read the international news?!?

    Of are you fixated just on who-died-yesterday in your town ... ?
     
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    I happen to disagree with your conclusions. But first I want to congratulate you for employing graphics to make you point.

    Covid-19 has a nasty way of "coming back". And, given that the US is a "free country", meaning unlike Europe one cannot make use of the police to fine people who don't obey the mask-rules, then phase two is about to teach America yet another lesson. Which goes like this: If you don't care to believe what we know about Covid-19; then you deserve to die from it!

    You may not like a mask, but if you want to escape this epidemic, you'd better learn how to wear one continuously when mixing with people. Even loved one, that (if infected) you might be killing by transmitting the virus. (Never thought of that, did you?)

    People are killing people. That is what any epidemic is about. Our habits are killing one another because too many don't like putting-and-keeping a mask around their nostrils and mouth.

    More stoopid than that and anyone deserves to be one of the Covid-19 victims ...
     
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    No you made the original claim based on a CNN report . You prove it or it’s by default fake news.
     
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    No. You made the original claim. You said:
    I linked to the CNN story to show you were wrong and you have
    1. Not even made any effort to prove that your original claim was true
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    2. not identified any statement in the CNN article that was factually incorrect.

    I don’t actually expect you to defend your original claim because it was demonstrably false. Sad.
     
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    CNN is not a legitimate source and if you use them as one you need to prove their claim correct as generally speaking they are 99% fake news.
     
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    Now you’re really parroting from the trump lie book.

    It’s time for you to prove your claim. You said,
    “US has the lowest Covid death rate in the world, a fact the media ignores“

    Prove it or admit you made it up.
     
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    Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.
     
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    I wear a mask when I seldom go out, but basically my house is still on lockdown because we're at high risk by age. We have our own strategy for risk reduction and do not listen to the government.

    But if I were young I would tell the government to go straight to h-e-double hockey stick. It's just a riot to tell them.
     
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    I heard the FREEDOM FOUNDATION was using Asymptomatic employees to visit Democratically Registered Voters over 60 years old, and most of the retired over 65. Trying to get inside their homes to have a CHAT... as they say... This is the rumor I heard... I guess they are also posing as a Democrat with biden hats and the whole fake thingy...

    I sure hope this is nothing more than a Rumor.
     
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    Prove I’m wrong. Your CNN attempt was a fail.
     
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    1. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/lowest-mortality-rate-world-trump-claim-incorrect-71660909 claim debunked ny John Hopkins.
    2. I actually seen the chart that shows us 9th from the bottom.
    3. MSNBC - https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/w...per-capita-virus-death-rates-wapo-83324997650
    4. Wapo was the one to go and get the data on fact check from either Cleveland clinic of hopkins.

    Regardless, it has nothing to do with Trump, other than another LIE. If the deaths are lower it is because of great healthcare. Trump has ZERO to do with that... He is just digging for some number that is lowering and using it as PR. Most of his followers watch FOX NEWS... On Fox news you wont hear the truth as it pertains to the virus. Only parts of it that read or sound good.
    Like today, they said several times it is dropping in many many states. That is because those states like NY, and NJ... have learned to stop the spread and are mostly still shut down.
    Every Republican led state is blowing up. Fox wont tell that because it doesnt look good for Trump. He totally blew it. i would suggest those gullible enough to watch only FOX news spread their wings a little. I watch Fox and all of them because I want the Truth by the facts. Not a shawn Hannity Opinion as fact. Or Laura Ingraham Hate moniker as News...
     
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    death rates - https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

    We or should we say, this admin. who plays ONLY Follow the Leader blew it at the start. Now, just trying to ignore while States like Mine, FLORIDA Fill all ICU beds, Arizona, Texas, all in bad shape because those were led by republicans who insisted on opening when Trump TOLD THEM TOO... and said Masks were not needed because at the Time, that is what Trump told them...
    Dont worry, just open... If the economy falls too far I might lose the election. Now, he has both because he just isnt a very BRIGHT person. He doesnt listen to others and makes decisions based on "how he feels about it" not science, not advice, but on gut feeling...
    "I FEEL IT WILL JUST GO AWAY, MAYBE WITH THE HEAT, MAYBE BEFORE WE HAVE 50, 60K DEATHS, BUT IT WILL ONE DAY, JUST GO AWAY"
    He actually has no idea what he is doing and surrounded himself with a bunch of Yes men. I can only imagine what the White house is like today with a bunch of azz kissers running around hiding reality from him and pat on the back every 5 min. Mr. president, we want to thank you for saving millions of lives. What a JOKE !
     
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    Right now in place of talking point Covid... Laura Ingraham chains down the black people like she does each night... She is so so white !
     
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    Whether COVID-19 is controlled or not, Trump says he'll cut off funding if the public schools don't re-open in the fall. Can he do that?
     

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