NYPD limits number of cops filing for retirement amid 400% surge of officers heading for the exit be

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  1. dairyair

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    pop goes the weasel
     
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    I'm conservative. I do care. We're the only ones who care (other than the occasional isolated lefty who actually is against illegal immigration).

    You also didn't answer the question....which in itself is an answer.
     
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    By and large, it is the left vilifying police (maybe not you, but I didn't say you). This is obvious. It's also unjustified.....data proves this.

    I never said all. But there is no group more scrutinized as well as video taped than police.

    And yes, the blame does rest solely on one side (maybe not solely, but overwhelmingly). Again, there's mountains of data showing police are not abusing their power as a whole. Yet you still have one side vilifying them. The left owns the repercussions....and there will be repercussions.
     
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    See, this is the problem. It's not inaccurate at all. If you don't resist, if you comply, you don't get assaulted by the cops. That's not in any way inaccurate. Sure, there are EXTREMELY rare cases, but that's the case with any profession. No profession has a perfect track record with 100% of its employees. You're still trying to push the 'cops are bad' narrative. You keep claiming you're not, but statements like this prove otherwise.
     
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    How in the hell is increasing police presence considered defunding?


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    And, I see this as the problem. Police brutality is not extremely rare. And, the "data" isn't accurate because most of the cases are never truly investigated or documented. Nobody is policing the police.
     
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    I'm afraid that Richmond's Democratic mayor and Virginia's Democratic governor are obsessed with passing more do nothing - feel good gun control laws because addressing the real issues like black-on-black crime or anything that calls for personal responsibility is anathema to their selectively offended, chronically outraged supporters.

    To give you an idea of the idiocy that permeates Richmond's city government, the mayor was granted "Emergency Powers" by our governor to immediately remove all Confederate statues because the vandals might infect each other with Covid19 or get injured while destroying them.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    By the same "logic", banks should be prohibited from having armed security guards because the robbers might get hurt during a shoot-out.
     
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    It is extremely rare. There's not one shred of evidence suggesting otherwise. You can believe it, but it isn't based off of anything credible.

    And even if you truly do believe it's a problem. How many times have you ever seen a cop use any kind of force with someone who was complying to their orders?
     
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    Yet tRUMP companies employed them.

    While you may care, the R party doesn't. They know the economy of the USA relies on migrant workers.
     
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    If you had a job, and the job changed so that whatever you did was wrong; would you quit that job?
     
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    If police officers are not feeling respected, how effective will they be on the job? What will be their attitude? Its like all employees - when they feel they are no longer respected, they won't work. So if these cops are wanting to retire, let them. Make room for new and different cops.
     
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    Yes, every government project generates loot for our corrupt politicians and their crony capitalist running dogs.
     
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    OK.

    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Voltaire.
     
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    They indicate that it's just for the weekend, so they are just moving dwindling police resources further from moderate- to high-crime areas to the highest crime area for a few days. Specifically, a block of 20 streets. Crime should decrease in that area, proving that more police decrease crime, but to the criminals just spread out, or move as a group, to a location a few blocks over?

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    Democrats in Virginia have always had the deepest love and respect for black Americans, and black America can really feel that love.

     
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    crony capitalists are the job creators and pay most of the taxes, without them America would be a poop hole like sub saharan africa.

    corrupt politicians run this ship and deserve a little respect.
     
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    That's highly accurate and what occurs when they don't go home.
     
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    Vote Democrat for Corrupt Party Bosses and Crony Capitalists!

    Good one! :)
     
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    You believe what you want to believe. I'll believe what I've witnessed and know about through the type of work I've done. It's asinine to believe a whole group of people deserve to be hassled, targeted and sometimes beaten for no reason other than the color of their skin. It's even crazier to think those complaints are taken seriously and documented anywhere. That would be like asking the KKK to provide records of how many and where they burned crosses.
     
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    They care a LOT more than the democrat party.

    And I'm now assuming you're not going to answer the question so I guess we're done here.
     
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    DAMN stop pushing this lie!

    Go find me instances of this happening. Show me instances where police are doing the things you say when the 'victim' doesn't first provoke/attack/resist.

    I don't hold opinions or push agendas that I can't back up with facts. Why are you promoting an agenda that isn't in any way supported by facts?
     
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    So you can't defend your position with anything credible. This is simply you putting politics above reality and truth.

    I'd be embarrassed if I couldn't defend my positions with facts. Guess we're different that way.
     
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    I believe that you have witnessed some racism in policing, as you claim. But don't you think that any racism in policing might be in geographic pockets of the country where crime rates are highest, and not widespread across the country (as in "systemic")?

    I think that police in my city, Austin, TX, do not wake up every morning wondering if they will go home at night or be shot on the job. That is because Austin is one of the safest larger cities in America. The police and the citizens seem to have a "fairly amicable" relationship. People here would be shocked and appalled if a blatantly racist officer got hired in to the academy. Police do function something like a "fraternity" or "brotherhood" where they protect each other, but I don't think the "fraternity" in my city would accept a "racist brother" into the policing family. Like the city they protect, the police seem really fairly laid back.

    In contrast, officers who work in some of the most dangerous, crime-ridden cities in America might wake up "on the defensive" most days, not knowing if today is the day they sacrifice their life in the line of duty. I could see that if they work the area of a community with the highest crime levels, whether that is a predominantly- black, Hispanic, or white neighborhood that they would start to stereotype people into tribal distinctions by skin color. That is of course morally wrong, but psychologically self-protective. I could see where a real systemic racism could seep into police academies in those cities.

    So, I guess the question is whether it is conceivable that high-crime cities have more racism just because "police are racists" or does some racism in policing grow unconsciously (at least initially) due to high crime rates in the neighborhoods where the criminals are predominantly one race and the police end up feeling intimidated and unsafe?


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    I wonder how many needy students in Richmond could have genuinely benefited from new computers and other teaching aids with the $ millions that was wasted moving statues around to appease the selectively outraged and chronically offended BLM con artists who set the agenda and for whom nothing is enough?

    Next on Virginia's Democratic list of feel-good-do-nothing antics is more gun control and related criminal enablement schemes.
     
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    Facts and data aren't really supportive of your conjecture.
     
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