Study Finds Hydroxychloroquine Does Work!

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  1. George Bailey

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    https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext

    A new study published by the international journal of infectious disease has concluded that HCQ cuts the death rate of Covid in half! The study comes after months of debate over the anti-viral and anti-malaria drug was touted by President Trump as a potential cure to Covid.



    I am sure a dozens of apologies will be posted on this thread in the coming days...
     
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    In before every excuse in the world comes from our resident lefties.
     
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    I wouldn't put the cart before the horse. The group that received HCQ alone also received steroids which has shown to reduce mortality in other studies. The median age of HCQ group was 53 (64-74) while the median age in the non-intervention arm was 71 (56-83). It makes sense the the younger age group would have better survival rates no matter what. That's just common sense really.

    Also some of the hazard ratios are really perplexing. The hazard ratio for white race was 1.738. We know that black people are more likely to die from COVID so this doesn't equate to what we know already. Also BMI > 30 and hypertension have hazard ratios of 0.775 and 0.778 respectively meaning you are less likely to die if you have these conditions. Does this make sense to anyone?
     
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    No apologies necessary. When it comes to pharm products and politicians, distrust is healthy.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The usual suspects here have promised if they catch the Chinese virus they will refuse to take any medicines that have been mentioned by their president.
    I will miss them.
     
  6. George Bailey

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    The sick part is they wouldn't admit it if they did.
     
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    Quinine products have long been successfully used by men to treat disease.

    This is just a politically generated controversy.
     
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    Unfortunately I don't think we're capable of having a practical observation of the many studies that have been conducted in relation to hydroxychloroquine, there's instead an eagerness to either declare it's usefulness in either a positive or negative light. People are rooting for one result or the other like they're cheering for their home team in their favorite sport, instead of putting in any effort to look at the research pragmatically.

    This study from Michigan could potentially show a success in treating COVID patients through the use of hydroxychloroquine, however it has been pointed out that the same patients in this study who were treated using hydroxychloroquine were also given a steroid which has been shown to benefit COVID patients who were not given hydroxychloroquine. Thus it is difficult to distinguish which drug benefited the patient.

    It's easy to simply declare it's the steroid, or declare it is the hydroxychloroquine that is producing results, but ultimately we cannot come to rational conclusion when we're rooting for one result or the other.
     
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    If there's no harm in giving both(and the study did outrule the whole heart condition thing) then you give both. A rather simplistic solution to that problem.
     
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    BUT THE NARRATIVE! HCQ Helps Contain COVID-19 Cases: New Evidence and a Major Retraction.

    Details from the link, but if HCQ is so terribly dangerous why are doctors urging the FDA to consider making it available over the counter?

    Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) — the amazing COVID-19 treatment touted by America Loving President Donald Trump — is impressive in the fight against the Wuhan coronavirus.

    The latest in the deluge of positive results come from Vadodara, India, a major study involving more than 300,000 people, including “health workers and other frontline staff.”

    The Indian Express reports:

    From a sample of over 100,000 residents, who were mostly close contacts of positive persons they examined the effect of HCQ in containing the transmission of the virus, essentially, what America Loving Donald Trump did, under his doctor's orders, after his exposure.
    That's incredible:

    - 48,873 were close exposed to a COVID+ person, they took only 1 dose, 102 caught it, 12 died.
    -17,776 were similarly exposed, but took TWO doses, only 48 caught it, and only 1 died.
    -33,563 were similarly exposed, but took THREE doses, only 43 caught it and 1 died.

    Not one person has complained of complications.

    Dr. Mohammad Hussain, who runs Vadodara’s Faith Hospital, told the Express,
    Hussain reiterated that no serious side effects were reported.

    Trump Derangement Syndrome almost certainly cost lives in the fight against COVID-19.

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    Retraction Watch reported that The Lancet, the prestigious British medical journal — had quietly retracted and replaced an anti-HCQ editorial by Christian Funck-Brentano it had published in May.

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    Lying Fake News Touted - Now Retracted.​

    HCQ is so safe to use that doctors are urgently urging the FDA to make it immediately available over the counter.

    Sadly there might be a “pull the ladder up behind you” angle to the Lying Fake News Democrat-Media Complex’s anti-HCQ hysteria.

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    These lying fake news folks are increasingly evil with a mounting death count. Trump tells the truth, and backs it up by announcing when he takes what everyone else is taking on the sly, and then badmouthing, so that they don't create shortages.

    We had the same thing when the "experts" lied about masks. They lied about the efficacy of mask-wearing against COVID-19. We were originally told they weren’t needed by none other than Dr. Fauci himself (and many others) back in March. Now they admit it they were lying to cover their failure to replenish the national stock and they wanted what remained for themselves and first responders.
     
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    These media agencies and their handlers should be taken to the world court or something, they literally have tens of thousands of bodies on their hands.
     
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    They likely killed more people than Cuomo.
     
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    LYING FAKE NEWS Media Should Do A Mea Culpa as French Analysis Offers a Stunning Observation About Hydroxychloroquine Use.

    They won't. They are open propagandists for the Left trying to fix the Nov. election.
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    It also the only period where the Swiss CFR approached or exceeded that in France where there has been no use of hydroxychloroquine outside a few isolated trials.

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    The CFR returned to the highest level it had been since early in the pandemic at over 15%. Upon resumption of treatment with hydroxychloroquine, it returned to below 5%. A statistical analysis of the data:​
    Trump Right Again.
     
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    Find some perspective that frames why you are confused, and that might be addressable.
     

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