How come the left never says anything positive about blacks?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Yes. And we got it last century. Move on.

    Plenty of people have worse hardships in their (much more recent) past, and manage to have decent lives.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how come the right never says anything positive about whites, how come they say American isn't great?

    some of the 'very fine people' on the right chant things like "blood and soil, Jews will not replace us"
     
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    You are lucky. I told this story before. I am an immigrant, legal of course. Came here as a toddler. I was born in a refugee camp designated as a DP Camp- Displaced Person Camp. Google it see 1948 Displaced Persons Act signed by Truman. When I was about Kindergarden 5-6 age + - I was riding my two wheeler maybe till with training wheels when a woman came out of a house like "church" carrying a Bible. She came over and stood over me and said ' you DP's you like Yankee dollars you hate us Yankees. You DP's come her steal our jobs steel our rents.' I went into after burner few home and told my mom about Bible woman calling me a DP a term I did not know the meaning as a little kid. After I told my mom what the woman said mom told me that she was a Baptist and that they "do not like us". I to this day do not trust. Baptists .

    That woman doesn't she sound just like Trump fans?
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just can't be bothered to waste time replying too specifically to your posts but they do seem to have an air of toxicity to me.

    It seems that every other thing you post has something to do with black people. Black people are really living in your head.
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can see the quality of the people that Democrats elect. This is the reason their cities are burning and ours are not.

    Perhaps Democrats should start selecting candidates based on their competence and not their immutable characteristics. Just a thought.
     
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    Who has worse hardships? Which demographic?
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one wants to be called an Affirmative Action hire... even Trump is not happy about his status as an Affirmative Action hire, the electoral college is Affirmative Action for the smaller states
     
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    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Sorry about that "Baptist" lady. Sounds like she must have had some kind of mental problem.
    What country were you born in?
     
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    Do people ever have doubts about White people's abilities? Is it only African-Americans who are called "Affirmative Action hires"?
     
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    Germany! Thank you you comments! That woman may well have had a mental problems but back then after WWII some or many people of the lower working class were against immigrants because they viewed immigrants as an economic threat. Funny thing is that this is what we hear about immigrants today from certain quarters. Instead of DP's steal our jobs and housing it is "immigrants" steal our jobs and housing. Those opposed to any immigration not just illegals who are criminals not immigrants also claim that immigrants hate" America.

    Funny but I must have subconsciously suppressed that incident 30 something years ago I was helping immigrants from the former Soviet Union with job resumes and stuff when it started coming back go me. Now with all of this hatred of immigrants these days I recall that incident often.
     
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    I doubt Trump's and his families abilities, so yes, there is many white peoples abilities I have doubts about

    the one issue I have with "Affirmative Action" is that it doesn't have on the job posting that being a white male disqualifies you, which means white males have to waste their time applying when from the get go, they don't qualify because of their race\gender

    trust me, I have seen many white people get jobs they have no business having too

    all that said, I think today very few people are "Affirmative Action" hires, there is more than enough experienced minorities out there for corps to hire that it is not needed as much anymore
     
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    Well I guess a good start would be not asking people to say good things about black people "as a whole"?

    I never think about any ethnicity "as a whole" so that makes it difficult to add commentary on the subject when couched in those terms.
     
  13. Moriah

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    Yes, there are many people who hate immigrants. I live in an agricultural area where many undocumented immigrants live and work. Most of them are good, hard working people. The agriculture industry in California would fail if not for the undocumented immigrants. Nobody else is going to go work in the fields for the pay these farm owners are offering.
     
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    I don't know if it's a reading comprehension thing or what, but this is not really about blacks, it's about how the left always refers to them in depressingly negative terms. A person looking from the outside in might see some sort of racism involved.

    I'm willing to bet that if I asked the left to say something positive about dogs they would have a hundred positive things to say in 10 minutes. So far the left has nothing positive to say about the people they appear to claim can only be oppressed victims in need of help from others.

    You might want to rethink your views on bigotry and racism. This is not about blacks, it's about the left.

    You guys were given an opportunity to say something positive for once and you've come up empty. The best part is you seem to want to blame me for your lack of saying anything positive and uplifting.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's funny. The left says whites are racist as a whole. The USA is racist as a whole. Blacks are victims as a whole. But suddenly that changed when you can't think of a single positive thing to say.
     
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    I'll say something positive: Black people are articulate, beautiful, classy, intelligent, hardworking and loving.
    There. I said lots of positive things about Black people.
     
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    Yes it's time black disadvantage measured by higher unemployment, poverty and incarceration rates were eliminated.

    All nonsense. See my comment above.

    (I suppose you mean "as a race")

    Er....perhaps because many blacks are living in poverty in "neighborhoods like war zones", etc [DJ Trump]

    Meanwhile, I'm all ears as to what the 'Right' say about blacks "as a whole".

    Nothing mystical about systemic racism. First it consists of slavery, then legal race-segregation, then finally, employment discrimination based on poverty.

    ANYONE subject to discrimination in the the job market has a greater likelihood of failure, especially in a system like ours which REQUIRES a level of unemployment as a restraint on wages, via the NAIRU. Blacks "as a whole" have always been subject to a higher level of disadvantage.

    Actually I mentioned Winfrey and Michelle Obama on another thread..

    Our neoliberal system requires that everyone compete despite the fact some WILL be denied employment (see the NAIRU, which is c.10% even in the best of times; the official 3.7% unemployment figure before the pandemic hit is pure fiction).

    Some are victims of employment discrimination as noted above.

    All races display a range of capabilities. Proportionally, blacks suffer greater discrimination, for reasons noted above.

    Individuals taking personal responsibility is half the story; the other half is the community's responsibility to ensure all have access to above poverty employment.

    Trump at least acknowledged the problem: "You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones..." etc, etc.

    But like you he doesn't have the solution, which will require much more than your "think positive" mantra.

    (..........)
     
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    It doesn't matter what anybody thinks. The woke left says nothing but how hard it is to be black, how poor black people are. Sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy. People you convince are destined to be poor and under class likely won't try to not be. Poor people are more useful to the party that promises free stuff to poor people.
     
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    RW garbage talking points.

    1. You can't "convince" people to be poor.

    2. to the extent that a party is "promising free stuff to poor people", why is such a party doing that? (other than to "be useful" ....)

    Meanwhile:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabel...h-to-pay-for-coronavirus-impact/#7280d7da6cc8

    ‘Please Tax Us’: Dozens Of Millionaires Urge Governments To Tax The Rich To Pay For Coronavirus Impact

    Hmm...looks like we've got a systems problem on our hands. The evil neoliberal system, in fact.
     
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    Yes its time black disadvantage measured by higher unemployment, poverty and incarceration rates were eliminated.

    All nonsense. See my comment above.

    (I suppose you mean "as a race")

    Er....perhaps because blacks are living in poverty in "neighborhoods like war zones", etc [DJ Trump]

    Nothing mystical about systemic racism. First it consists of slavery, then legal segregation, then finally , employment discrimination based on poverty.

    ANYONE subject to discrimination in the the job market has a greater likelihood of failure, especially in a system like ours which REQUIRES a level of unemployment as a restraint on wages, via the NAIRU. Blacks "as a whole" have always been subject to a higher level of disadvantage.

    I was the one who was reprimanded for mentioning Winfrey and Michelle Obama on another thread..

    Our neoliberal system requires everyone to compete despite the fact some WILL be denied employment (see the NAIRU, which is c.10% even in the best of times; the official 3.7% unemployment figure before the pandemic hit is pure fiction).

    Some are victims of employment discrimination as noted above.

    All races display a range of capabilities. Proportionally, blacks suffer greater discrimination, for reasons noted above. noted above.

    Individuals taking personal responsibility is half the task at hand; the other half is the community's responsibility to ensure all have access to above poverty employment.

    Trump at least acknowledged the problem: "You are living in poverty, your neighborhoods are like war zones..." etc, etc.

    But like you he doesn't have the solution, which will require much more than your "think positive" mantra.
     
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    SHHHHHH!!

    If you're quiet long enough, you'll hear stories about how minorities (code for "black people"*) are either too poor to afford an ID or too stupid to know how/where to get one if they're not.

    * Or is it "negros", "colored", "black and brown"**, "African Americans"*** or "Persons of Color (POC)" this week?

    ** Have you ever seen a human who could literally be called "black" before?

    *** If someone is neither an immigrant from Africa, or directly descended from someone who was, but still has dark skin, do they qualify?
     
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    "How come the left never says anything positive about blacks?"

    give us example of the positive things the right says about whites
     
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    Progressive conspiracy theorist crap.

    1. if you tell someone over and over and over for all their life that they can achieve anything because of a soupremacy of a certain race they likely aren't going to try.

    2. To keep them Port as long as Mommy government pays for everything you don't have to do anything. It's to buy votes.
    This has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever read. If they want the government to have their money just give it to them. These millionaires begging to be taxed can just donate.

    It's as simple as writing a check how did people so stupid manage to become millionaires.

    Something that stupid can't be true.
     
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    I'm not sure I can think of anything positive Republicans say about any particular race outside of the economic prosperity that particularly blacks were enjoying prior to the outbreak.

    I'm not sure why they would say anything positive about whites that wouldn't apply to everyone.
     
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    thank you, my point is proven, the ops post is ridiculous
     

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