Tell me the numbers are not inflated

If a physician does not diagnose the disease the non-patient does not have the disease and the non-patient cannot collect any of their insurance benefits -- because they were at ease, and not diseased, and so such people would have been nuts to take up the time of a physician.

Those who take up the time of physicians for no valid reason we call hypochondriacs.

 

It is political science, not science science.

 

It seems a little disingenuous that once a positive covid test is revealed, the cause of death is just automatically assumed. Not even sure why I'm arguing this, as I don't have real strong feelings about it one way or another. The number is too big either way. If it's off by 20-50% in either direction, it really doesn't matter, it's bad.

I see you didn't take me up on the pizza challenge. I know it's off topic.

 

~ After what we now know about WHO why does anyone have any trust in that organization ? Obviously they work for only one Master .. .

 

Today they will be counted as Covid.

 

And?

 

The count in this state is maintained by the Virginia Department of Health. Adding to the strangeness of that one day sudden jump, was the fact that the entire state was shown as having 413 new cases that day. If that was right, then the entire state, less my city only had 176 new cases? At the time, the state was averaging 400-500 new cases a day. Further, all surrounding cities/counties totals have not waivered. Therefore there were no numbers being adjusted from one city/county to another.

This is an obvious correction, but it still shows date manipulation. It begs the question: How accurate are the Numbers?

 

Cool story bro, tell it to conspiracy theoriests anonymous.

 

Every pound overweight a person eats themselves into causes their body to produce 7 miles of blood vessels to supply that pound of excess tissue.

The heart of a 500 pound person must work furiously 24 hours a day to pump the supply of blood through additional thousands of miles of blood vessels to all that un-needed, excess, dangerous tissue. The human heart can only do that for a limited time.

The primary cause of death for such people, excluding accidents and violence, is obesity plus the additional diseases like diabetes that they have accrued as contributing causes because of the excess, un-needed tissue they force themselves to carry around.

Obesity is slow suicide. They were dying before the coronavirus hit them.

 

And yet covid-19 is a causal factor in their death. And that is why they are counted as a covid-19 death.

 

Goes on the second line on the death certificate. Obesity or diabetes was the cause of death on the first line.

 

So much for "science matters".... Fear and dependence is all you folks have.

 

Yes, the folks who had to deal with the HIV/AIDS epidemic without the support of the federal government for years, might just think that people need to take these diseases seriously and some random guy on FB saying something isn't worthy of any scientific basis.

 

People can only have a disease if a doctor diagnoses it? By that reasoning we could eliminate all disease by eliminating doctors.

The rest of your rant is unresponsive. Statistical analysis shows that significantly more people are dying this year than during the same period last year. More than the number being counted as Covid deaths.

Unless there is another explanation for the uptick in deaths, it seems reasonable to conclude that Covid deaths are actually being undercounted rather than inflated.

 

WTF are you yammering about? What was random about the observation that all deaths, regardless of actual cause of death were being counted as WuFlu deaths if the antibodies were present? Your response essentially painted the floor with science doesn't matter. Perhaps crayon....

 

Now that's some medsplainin'.

 

So why shouldn't that person count as a Covid-19 death?

 

Taking a lesson from a racist in science? That’s rich. Because the disease doesn’t always do the killing but enables the killing. That’s what we mean when it’s said the disease kills someone. That’s why we have public health campaigns in the first place. Think alcohol. Alcoholism doesn’t kill, it’s the dying cells in the body from alcoholism that kills people. Likewise it’s the same for Covid 19. Covid 19 leads to lung scarring. Lung scarring means you can’t breath. Can’t breathe leads to death. This isn’t a controversial idea. This is how we talk about diseases.

 

LOL.. Ok, literally laughing at you Your logic would have us believe that if you were killed in a car accident and you had cancer that cancer killed you. What nonsense. Try selling your BS on CNN... They might actually pay you for it. Oh, and for the record, alcohol can and does kill folks, as in being poisoned by having such a high level of BAC it literally shuts the body down. I know, too outside the bounds of your carefully curated bubble of non fact and untainted by science experience of knowledge...

 

I prefer doctors over partisan govt officials. Govts are known liars.

We are having young people being hospitalized for covid. Some after a hospital stay test negative two times 48 hours apart. Released to die a short time later from massive blood clots that kill them. Cause of death...clot. This happened too often but cause of death...blood clot. Caused by having covid after testing negative.

My daughter who is an RN said the whole story is not being told about this virus. It is worse than we are being told by this admin. And she voted for trump.

All the big hospitals here are maxed out and they are sending patients up to 500 miles away to get treated.

Just wait til flu season folks. My town has a 300 buck fine for not wearing a mask. Cops at Walmart writing tickets.

Unlike other corona viruses this one ain't going away. It has mutated and is just as deadly and killing 30 year olds.

IMO it is a war virus. Bio warfare to take economies down.

 

I prefer doctors over partisan govt officials. Govts are known liars.

We are having young people being hospitalized for covid. Some after a hospital stay test negative two times 48 hours apart. Released to die a short time later from massive blood clots that kill them. Cause of death...clot. This happened too often but cause of death...blood clot. Caused by having covid after testing negative.

My daughter who is an RN said the whole story is not being told about this virus. It is worse than we are being told by this admin. And she voted for trump.

All the big hospitals here are maxed out and they are sending patients up to 500 miles away to get treated.

Just wait til flu season folks. My town has a 300 buck fine for not wearing a mask. Cops at Walmart writing tickets.

Unlike other corona viruses this one ain't going away. It has mutated and is just as deadly and killing 30 year olds.

IMO it is a war virus. Bio warfare to take economies down.

All we can do is wash hands, wear masks and social distance. And hope for the best.

If you don't do this it's stupid.

 

Yeah... I’m glad you figured that out. Now let’s connect the ideas together. Now let’s look st covid 19. Covid19 has been shown to cause brain damage. Person makes a dumb decision because of that. How do you mark the death? The answer is simple- did the disease cause or was a major cause of the death? It’s why we can also have deaths by despair due to alcoholism as well. It depends on how we view the deaths and want to categorize them.

 

You don't need a lab test to confirm a diagnosis. Does your doctor need lab confirmation to treat your child's ear infection? Flu? Common cold? Eye infection? I guess these ailments don't exist because they are never laboratory confirmed.

 

It would seem that you should. Otherwise you are simply ruining the counts and guessing at numbers that then correlate into policy decisions. It appears you don't care that lying about the actual numbers artificially skews the policy that is then produced.

 

How about the cases where covid attacked the heart muscle? This happened here. On a young person with no blockage.

These things are happening folks. My daughter works in the unit that does stints and other heart procedures. Her best friend is over the covid floor here.

This virus is bad news. If people knew the truth ...