SEE IT: Anti-masker stabs elderly man, gets killed by veteran cop

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  1. jay runner

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    The man, whatever leanings he had, is dead. And whenever a violent, stupid person dies at the hands of police it is a wonderful thing and a gift to the world to behold. Now he can do no more harm. So glad he is DEAD!
     
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    No, it is not a good thing. It is sad, and unnecessary.
     
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    I've been to Vegas twice now since the lockdowns ended. The first time, the casinos weren't requiring masks. Now, they are, and they're serious about it. If these stores are anything like the casinos, you won't get two feet without some employee handing you a mask to put on or showing you the door. I also didn't see one employee in the casinos break mask discipline.
     
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    I haven't met a liberal anti-masker yet. I've met quite a few anti-mask Trumpsters. Young people on both sides aren't wearing masks, but that's not a political thing with them. The anti-mask phenomenon (which is also nothing new, anti-mask leagues popped up in 1917) is almost exclusively a right-wing thing. I bet it was in 1917 too.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. The officer showed incredible restraint here, and obviously waited to fire until the last possible moment. Not sure how I feel about her continuing to fire after he appears to (to my, admittedly, completely untrained eye) be incapacitated, but it sure took a lot of shots just to get him to that point. I may owe some people apologies when it comes to debates about the stopping power of 9mm rounds (which is what I assume she was using).
     
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    So? Just beause you haven't met one doesn't mean they don't exist.

    Then why make this a political thing? As I stated no evidence he was a Trump supporter! Yes, some people don't wear masks because they don't believe they are effective, it is not always political..


    Are you taking a survey?! Lol Again, proves nothing. ..

    Were you around in 1917 to ask? Proves nothing, Trump didn't need to be dragged into this issue.
     
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    I see no liberal equivalents to the governors of Georgia and Florida who STILL won't mandate mask wearing. Quite the opposite. Liberals have been very cautious. Conservatives are more likely to think this is a hoax to take down Trump, or the CDC is inflating body counts, or it's like the flu, gone by April like a "miracle", etc.



    No, not always political. Sometimes it is though and the people who refuse to wear masks for political reasons are exclusively right-wingers. Can you name me a left-winger who is against masks or mask mandates?




    We're in the middle of a national crisis. Of course the President of the country is going to get "dragged into it". It would be naive to think otherwise.

    Trump refused to be seen wearing a mask until just a couple of days ago. That pretty much tells you what Trump thinks about mask wearing. And if you think what the president says/does isn't important during a crisis like this...
     
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    Yes it's admirable that a few wore masks while rioting in the streets! Bravo, glad they had respect for others during this pandemic while looting and burning down businesses..

    And soooo cautious liberal run states have the highest death count...yay for caution! :applause:
    Who cares?! You're diverting this topic very unsuccessfully! Again NO EVIDENCE THIS GUY WAS A TRUMP SUPPORTER!

    You have yet to provide solid proof proving me wrong, just the typical blame game.
     
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    Touche. Some leftists obviously were not so cautious. Mostly I mean politicians. I don't know of any anti-mask liberal politicians. There is no liberal equivalent to what the Georgia and Florida governors are doing. To not mandate mask wearing (and in Georgia's case, to actively fight the Atlanta mayor on it) boggles my mind. Do these politicians WANT to lose at this point?


    Except for the people freaking out about mask wearing (and losing their jobs over it) always seem to be Trump supporters, like this:

    Can you find any examples of liberals having public melt downs over wearing masks?


    You ignored this:

    What, specifically, do you disagree with?
     
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    It looked like he was trying to pick the knife up off of the ground when she started shooting again.
     
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    True. Not sure how much of a threat he still posed. Then again, the officer showed amazing restraint beforehand and clearly gave him every possible chance she could.
     
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    Those casinos also have small armies of armed security, the widely known 'screw around here and we'll bury you in the desert' ethos, and the full support of the local and state governments to do whatever is necessary to keep the money flowing. Walmart has 'health ambassadors' aka door greeters in polo shirts, and some other retailers just have signs. Hell, have you the statements these retailers have put out? I've yet to see one that plainly states "no mask = ****". Don't get me wrong I'm in full support of the mandates but they're using such weak language that I can barely tell if they're serious. As such I fully expect we'll see gross confrontations and violations from anti-masker scumbags who are emboldened by "muh rights" or COVID fake news or confused into thinking the requirement wasn't a just suggestion.
     
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    I couldn't tell you on this one. I just assume megacorporation casinos are going to act like megacorporation retailers, but maybe not. We'll see.
     
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    That video is identical to a sim-munitions training scenario I participated in as the 'perp.' Are we sure thats the right video...? Reality is rarely so 'textbook.'
     
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    This is why I can’t take masks seriously. I’m well aware of the level of protection they provide the wearer and others. But requiring masks in an environment most likely to facilitate infections of people wearing or not wearing a mask is off the charts ironic and oxymoronic. If we really want to stop spread, don’t let people interact in one of, if not the, most inessential business imaginable.

    It’s as if masks can mitigate every other act of stupidity an individual participates in. So let’s say if I’m infected and I wear a mask. The mask decreases my contributions of virus laden droplets and aerosols by 60%. But because masks “protect others” I go to the casino all afternoon. I’m around more people for a longer amount of time because I believe others are safe. So in effect I actually emit more droplets and aerosols in the presence of more people, completely negating the 60% initial reduction. Instead of playing poker online, I’ve been a selfish jackass, putting people’s lives in danger unnecessarily. But nobody cares because I wore a mask.

    In this scenario the mask wearing jackass knows they’ve been one, so to soothe their conscience they claim people who don’t want to wear a mask for whatever reason are the selfish ones. Even if the non mask wearer actually is less risky to the public because they stay home most of the time.

    It’s a real head scratcher to me why this isn’t obvious to people. If you want to infringe on people’s rights to stop the spread of this virus, have the balls to infringe on rights that would actually stop the spread. Otherwise it’s just a bunch of subjective virtue signaling.
     
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    I repeat, this does not prove the man was a Trump supporter. Maybe the guy had no political preference? Maybe he didn't even vote at all? Again ...no evidence! Post as many meltdowns as you want of Trump supporters, it doesn't prove anything about THIS case!

    According to Marketwatch, Some 38% of Democrats and 24% of Republicans at that time said that they wore masks at all times. By the second week of June, some 60% of Democrats and about 34% of Republicans responded they wear masks at all times. So while yes, more liberals wear masks but there is still a good percentage of liberals who do not.

    Yes I did because it's a complete diversion to what I was talking about..
     
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    Given the number of people out of work right now it shouldn't be hard to find security for grocery stores. I would give people a warning the first time & ban them from the store the second time. It won't take long for the message to sink in. BTW, the idea that stores might require armed guards to enforce mask wearing says something desperately sad about the state of America.

    Freedom of choice is not freedom from consequence. No one has the right to endanger others. Businesses have a reponsibility to protect staff. If people don't want to play their part they are free to shop elsewhere.
     
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    I've posted links of Trump supporters having meltdowns over mask wearing. You haven't been able to find any liberals doing the same. Your failure to provide evidence and my providing evidence should be the final word on this little derail.

    We were talking about not wearing mask for political reasons. I will submit that both sides are equally lazy about mask wearing. But one side is political about not mask wearing (Republicans) while the other isn't. This is so obvious, why are we arguing about it? Just look at what the President is doing. Is Trump prioritizing mask wearing? No? Then his supporters won't either. This is politics 101.



    You didn't address any of it, but I'm not surprised.
     
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    That's the thing a lot of these anti-maskers are failing to understanding.
     
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    guess one less vote for Trump
     
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    Yes indeed. Dressing up childish selfishness as some sort of ideological position.
     
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