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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every country in the world where mask-wearing is not common made the same error. Our medical experts lied to us for weeks, telling us that masks don't help and specifically suggested "Don't wear masks". Then, they revealed that was a flat-out lie and they simply didn't want the public stockpiling N95 and medical masks because there weren't enough for the medical caregivers. They treated us like children. They could have said wear a "cloth face covering" and recommended that retailers of N95's and medical masks pull their stock off the shelves from the public and only sell them to the medical community. We probably wouldn't have had to shut down if they'd done that from the start. Once they intentionally lied one time, and it was a big lie, a lot of people don't trust anything they say today.
     
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    Common sense?

    Look at this video and tell me about common sense 200701_wn_index2_hpMain_16x9_992.jpg
     
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    And those "extremely low rates of death" have accounted for ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND dead folks already...and counting
     
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    There are many more countries in the world and CVD deaths far outnumber cancer deaths as do HIV and communicable disease deaths and fatal vehicle accidents worldwide. Malaria is about equal but also not being addressed with the urgency of c-19. Starvation which is already at about 6 million this year is said to be in danger of reaching 250 million due to lockdowns which prevent people from working. If you believe the WHO.
     
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    I wear an n 95 mask. Maybe it protects me and the people around me a tiny bit but the real reason for the masks are that the governments want the economy open for reasons of tax collection and the masks give them political cover (no pun intended)
     
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    140,000/325,000,000 = 0.04%. Only 99.96% survivors over 7 months. Might drop to 99.9% by the end of the year.
     
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    Several years ago, I bought one package of three N95s, thinking I might not have bad allergy attacks every time I mow my lawn. I only used one because I literally felt like I was inhaling only my own CO2 and couldn't get enough oxygen. I felt lightheaded and dizzy after only a few minutes.

    Anyway, I found the other two in the garage when Covid started. Even without physical exercise and out in the sun, I still felt like I couldn't breathe by the end of 20 minutes shopping for groceries in an air-conditioned store. (They are not the kind with the air valve though.)
     
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    Screw your per centanges.

    That ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THOUSAND DEAD SOULS my friend...and counting
     
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    Just wear the damn mask and quit whining
     
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    Yes. 140,000/325,000,000. Is my math incorrect?
     
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    I'll recite your math to my dead friend next time I visit his grave
     
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    I've been wearing a bandana, color-coordinated with my outfit.
     
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    ` Wait for my next surprise gift to the west ! ´
     
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    Yes and looking at the world as an aggregate it has killed only 7 out of 100,000. About 600,000 out of 7.8 billion.

    Is this vanishingly small number worth the trillions of dollars and millions of jobs lost worth the economic loss and investment. Are we all really that craven?

    I will save you all the trouble: it will get worse as more people contract it and die, right? Maybe but as more are exposed the human body will adapt and the rate of increase will drop.

    This is NOT an extinction event!

    ANYTHING could happen and I’m told that very large errant space objects that are presently unchartered could collide with the Earth. Whatever!

    I’m sorry but it wasn’t that long ago that people were talking about human extinction through climate change. Maybe in less than a generation!

    Before that it was nuclear winter and the whales and the destruction of the Ozone layer by hair spray. Always another waiting catastrophe. How can this possibly be psychologically healthy?

    This endless parade of worry is probably the most psychologically destructive media driven thing I have seen in my life.

    Now my children are asking me if they are going to die!!!! How can I possibly explain proportions to very young children if even adults don’t want to do the work of understanding them??

    At some point bravery has to emerge and faith in the human race and it’s incredible inner machinery to deal with outside events has to win the day.
     
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    ~ Yes this is the entire purpose - social control experiment. Notice the CDC has not confirmed seasonal flu deaths ? Very suspicious ...
     
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    Hmmmm. I'll probably not go to my father's, grandmother's, all four of her sisters, and my great grandmother's sites to recite Alzheimer's statistics, but we who survive have different ways of consoling ourselves over the loss of loved ones.

    I'm sorry about the loss of your friend. My sympathy and prayers go out to you. :hug:
     
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    The colors and photography on that are really cool!
     
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    ~ Some people are fond of " blame & shame" . At present Trump is the focus of their wrath - when the same drama queens let the CCP off the hook. Some even burn and riot - all useless gestures of immaturity.
    Go figure ... :confuse:´
     
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    Everything you mentioned has been around for a long time. Covid showed up in Dec. The final global death toll from it will be catastrophically high. The death toll in America is already catastrophically high, since the vast majority of the deaths were preventable. Countries like S. Korea and Japan never had the problems we are still dealing with. If we had done what they did, we would have lost much much fewer people.
     
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    How does this CDC conspiracy work exactly, given that the head of the CDC is a Trump appointee? More bad hiring decisions by Trump?
     
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    You mean if western culture has a several hundred year history of having people wear masks when they have any cold of flu symptoms? This country isn't even 250 years old yet. A lot of Asian countries did better because they were regular mask wearers before Covid.

    There is likely to never be a "final" Covid death toll, just like there will never be a "final" Influenza death toll. Covid is "new", but it's looking like the flu or the common cold which is going to come back every single year for the forseeable future. It will probably get "controlled" with an annual vaccine, but never wiped out.
     
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    ~ We did do what they did - but 9 weeks later. Taiwan and South Korea had an early warning directly from those returning from Wuhan. Europe and the rest of us did not. Why did WHO hide the facts ?
     
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    That is true. If we'd had we had a President who early on pushed for mask wearing, that would have helped. The first time Trump let anyone see him with a mask on was, I believe, last week.

    Maybe.
     
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    ~ When you have people who are negligent you only find out when it's too late. It now appears WHO may have mislead the CDC - on purpose.
    Blaming Trump's administration is useful to those feeding their own delusion syndrome.
    There are many who need to be replaced - Don Trump is not one of them.
    ~ Fauci said masks do little or nothing. He also stated Wuhan virus was "nothing to worry about" if it comes to the U.S. Fortunately Trump went against the "experts" trusted judgement and ordered travel restrictions. Pelosi and DeBlasio criticized Trump's decision and encouraged people to "visit China Town" and mingle.
    Trump also got Hydroxychloroquine from India after we ran out.
     
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    Japan never locked down. So maybe we shouldn’t have either.
     
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