The problem with repressing peaceful protests...

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  1. quiller

    quiller Well-Known Member

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    Answer the question, just for the novelty. When is "gone on too long" finally going to matter to you?
     
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    Looks like a Covid breeding ground to me. And as far as I'm concerned spreading a deadly virus willfully, well that isn't very peaceful now is it?
     
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    Moronic post on your part.
     
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    I am going to let Beau speak here


    He speaks a lot of sense about how to manage protests
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Can you point me to this march for gun rights that had armed robberies going on within it you are claiming?
     
  6. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Aaah yer no fun.
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    Why are they marching between 11pm and 5am while rioting and burning and attacks on police are occurring?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Federal property belongs to the federal government. The local government has no jurisdiction over federal property. And as such, the federal government has the right to protect it.
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And you didn't see Trump's Gestapo gassing and shooting at people who were just there with their hands up, right?

    What's the plan? Stopping riot by attacking peaceful protesters instead of the actual rioters?
     
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    In Chicago it looked like peaceful protesters until the march neared its objective, the Columbus statue. Then "peaceful" protesters opened larges umbrellas for visual cover while many others changed into black clothing, throwing objects were distributed, and the broad BLM banners were disassembled with the resulting sharpened PVC piping used as dangerous projectiles. Many police went to the hospital and one may lose an eye. The "peaceful" prostesters are diversions supporting the violence.
     
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    All that, and while GSA used to have the duty to protect federal property, that duty was transferred to the DHS after 911:

    "Title 9 - Criminal
    9-66.000 - PROTECTION OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY


    9-66.100 - Protection of Government Property—Real Property

    The Administrator of the General Services Administration is responsible for the maintenance and operation of federal offices and buildings throughout the United States. See 40 U.S.C. § 301 et seq. However, the duty to protect federal property now resides with the Secretary of Homeland Security. See 40 U.S.C. § 1315. In order to fulfill this responsibility, the Secretary is authorized to enforce the Rules and Regulations Governing conduct on Federal Property. See 40 U.S.C. § 1315. See 40 U.S.C. § 1315. Violations of these regulations are criminal offenses, punishable by thirty days imprisonment, a $5,000.00 fine, or both. See 40 U.S.C. § 1315(c)(2). The Rules and Regulations Governing Conduct on Federal Property can be found in Title 41 of the Code of Federal Regulations."

    If the rioters don't want to be the object of the DHS's sworn duty they must stay clear of federal real property and cease doing damage to it.
     
  12. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Huh? You actually thought that it's the President who makes Federal Laws????

    It's worse than I thought.
     
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    Gone too long? Never! It's not just the right but, I would add, the obligation of citizens to peaceably protest until their grievances are redressed. It's right there on the Constitution! Remember that? It's what conservatives said they would always protect. But that was before Trump got his followers to be loyal to Him (in all His glory) instead of to their country
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're confused. The real reason why that scares you is that it's Civil Rights breeding ground
     
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    ^^^Ridiculous argument based upon, and drowning in, overwhelming fallacies.

    Verdict: Complete fail
     
  17. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of my friends was born in Hungry. He would occasionally say "Pardon my English. I have only been in this country for a short distance".

    It seems like you have only been in this country for a short distance.


     
  18. Golem

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    Ok... you've convinced me that I should go back to my previous policy: don't respond to obviously idiotic statements like this one, unless I can think of something funny to say.
     
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    Perhaps I am confused. See, the MSM has been telling me that the virus is deadly AF. The left has been blasting that we opened way too early and the virus is ramping back up. So when I see these protestors, basically ignoring all of this to protest in huge, very close together, crowds, I have to wonder if any of it is true. Does simply putting a piece of cloth on your face prevent the spread? If so, we should open everything fully immediately, as long as masks are worn. Full capacities at all venues, as it seems that piece of cloth is the miracle we've all been waiting for.

    Or, are you willing to admit that these protestors are very likely spreading covid?

    As far as civil rights are concerned, I'm all for them. As long as they are peaceful. So, you'll have to try again to paint me as some kind of fascist, because your first attempt, although somewhat cute, was lame AF.
     
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    There's a very simple way those "peaceful protesters" can avoid all the gassing and shooting, and that's to stop running interference for the violent and destructive rioters.

    If you willingly lie down in a pit of snakes, don't come crying to me when you get bit.
     
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    What? That made no sense. Please explain what point you were trying to make.
     
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    "The legislators responsible for bringing this legislative excrement to life are Representative Tom Rooney (R-Fla.) in the House of Representatives and Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT.) leading the Senate version."

    Yes I'm fully aware of this aptly described piece of unconstitutional trash. Your link answers none of my questions or even addresses them. Do you actually have an opinion or are you just regurgitating (and bending over to) an example of fascist ideology infiltrating our pretend government? Every state actor responsible for "bringing this legislative excrement to life" should be impeached for violating their Oath of Office. These so called legislators are in fact domestic enemies of the United States.
     
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    What is not true in my statement?
     
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    Sure... let cops kill people for driving while black.

    The rest of your post is nonsense.
     
  25. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Driving while black? Where did that come from?

    Now you're just rambling.

    Wipe the spittle off your chin, and simmer down, sir.
     
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