Do you agree with race realism?

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Do you agree with race realism?

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  2. No.

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  3. Don't know, no opinion.

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  1. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    White people value the arts. Go to any big city museum on a weekend and it is full of white people. BIPOCS are extremely rare.
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You keep mentioning that whale brains are humongous. Are they really as big as a Toyota Corolla? May I ask you for a citation for your claim please?

    When arguing about whether something is scientific or not, it would bolster one's credibility if one could at least counter with scientific facts instead of just offering personal opinions.

    https://rosasinensishibiscus.wordpr...ed-brain-facts-that-people-thought-were-true/
    (Scroll down to Myth 3.)
    Reality check: The average adult [human] brain weighs about three pounds and measures about 15 centimetres in length. The largest animal brain belongs to that of a sperm whale, weighing in at a whopping 18 pounds. Another large-brained animal is the elephant, with an average brain size of around 11 pounds.

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-animal-has-the-biggest-brain.html
    The sperm whale has the largest brain in the world. Incredibly, the sperm whale has a brain that weighs around 18 pounds.

    https://whatthingsweigh.com/how-much-does-a-toyota-corolla-weigh/
    How much does a Toyota Corolla weigh?
    Toyota Corolla Curb Weights
    2019 Curb Weight – 2,840 to 2,885 pounds

    So... the largest whale brain weighs 18 pounds. A Corolla weighs about 2,840 pounds. If you have citations to the contrary, I would like to see them.
     
  3. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Are you suggesting that underlined part is genetic?

    I'm curious. Why do you think Africans first migrated out of the Sub-Saharan region?
     
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    Is that what they show?
     
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    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    I'm talking about the Liberal Arts. Things like philosophy, anthropology, English, literature, linguistics, political science, history, psychology, sociology, religious studies, and so forth.
     
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    cirdellin Banned

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    Of course not but I’m asking if they did show African Americans to be superior by say even 1 standard deviation above the mean would African Americans be so vehemently opposed to the results?
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    OK, I was wrong. Do I get lashed by a wet noodle? I rather like anything else

    18 lbs is still 6x the size of the human and should make whales LOTS smarter than we are if size makes any real difference

    I've read somewhere that it's the folds that determine the intelligence but you know how much my word is worth.
     
  8. Pycckia

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    All those liberal arts are tarted up with Critical Theory these days and are literally worse than useless. You will not learn to be a literate man, just an SJW.
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And any of them with 5 dollars will get you laughed out of any Starbucks on the planet. STEM is the only thing with any value in the modern world.

    And then we're here discussing those very things all day. I wonder if this isn't genetic occasionally
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    SJW's founded this country (the USA) and its values are based on the French Enlightenment, literally the blueprint for the Woke.
     
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    No. Racist idiocy at best. For those that do believe please explain:

    Intelligence: Donald Trump vs Barrack Obama
    Obedience to the law: Donald Trump vs Barrack Obama
    Monogamy: Donald Trump vs Barrack Obama
     
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    This is the bottom line to this one.

    Is every disparity in income and demographic presence in a particular job the result of racism or other ism?

    Or are there overriding considerations in why this is the case?

    For example is the clear preponderance in the NBA by African Americans evidence of racism or is it superior ability?

    Should this be challenged by white and Asian players who would like the same opportunity?

    If not then what is the line we wish to draw as legal challenges to preponderance?
     
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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You don't like Pulitzer winners? What is your kind?
     
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    How is stating at least another 50 yrs is needed declaring victory?
     
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    No punishments whatsoever. I was just surprised that someone would think a Toyota Corolla would fit inside a whale's skull, and figured it was worthwhile to mention the discrepancy, which was off by a factor of 157. The reasons for the differences in intelligence of various species have been studied scientifically and biologists and neuroscientists are pretty much in agreement on the subject.

    The cerebral cortex is where the cerebral hemispheres are found. These areas are responsible for communication, thinking, and memory. Now when it comes to brain size, humans have the largest cerebral cortex of any mammal.
    https://maxbrainfunction.com/major-differences-human-animal-brains/

    There is a correlation between brain size and intelligence, however, it is actually the cerebral cortex that matters. Instead of comparing actual brain sizes, one would need to compare cerebral cortex sizes.
     
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    yes the neocortex is all that matters in critical brain problem solving.
     
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    Uh....so? I'm not saying that there aren't differences between the races, I'm saying the differences are meaningless, of academic interest only.

    The variations within one group are still larger than the average differences between the groups themselves and in saying the differences have significance or meaning you're comparing the average of differences with individual differences and you can't, that's apples to oranges.

    Black geniuses may be rarer than white geniuses, but they are still geniuses. Genius is always rare anyway and it is on the genius that we make progress, we definitely shouldn't waste them because they are not of the "right" race.
     
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    Every iteration of humanity was 'wronged' at some time in the past.

    The only way forward is FORWARD. Cease and desist from past wrongs immediately, and never do them again. If you try to 'rectify' every historical mistake, it will never end. Every past wrong will be 'rectified' with a new wrong. And every successive generation will see advantage in that, and exploit it - which in turn adds another layer of wrong. It's a freaking disaster in every sense.
     
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    Extremely well said!
     
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    No, it doesn't. Some of the poorest and most persecuted peoples on earth don't resort to crime. They behave themselves, stay married, raise kids who don't do drugs or crime, and given any opportunity - immediately put it to good use to escape poverty.

    Deliberate disenfranchisement (to keep them out of the white power base and out of elitist white society - while retaining their vote) is what explains it this century. All courtesy of the Progressive Left.
     
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    O.M.G

    If any of you Rightists or Centrists had any doubt about where it all comes from ... see above.
     
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    You and me both. I know too many obnoxious white people ... and none of them are conservatives.

    As a 'white' Leftist myself, that's pretty ****ing depressing. We're supposed to be the good guys. Turns out we're the biggest a-wholes of all.
     
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    Wow .. you could not possibly be more wrong.

    A HUGE percentage of human activity is driven and modulated by instinct. The delusion that our thoughts master us, is high order arrogance. It's that which drives the Progressive Left to completely ignore our animal nature .. and thus brutalise the vulnerable.
     
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    Which is why the Left created it. It's a control (of the dirty masses) mechanism. It works by destroying survival instincts and motivation.
     
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    Only Progs think that way. They're the ones who like to keep one or two brown people at arm's reach (for street cred), but can't bring themselves to think of POC as fully realised human adults. They mask their antipathy with protests and bluster.
     

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