Mail-In Voting : Experiment by local news station (LOL)

The USPS would be vastly in the red if it didn't have to prefund billions in future benefits. Literally the only corp who has to do so.

 

Trump doesn't even know how to vote in person.

Just more of the same old crap. Trump doesn't care. He's not going to vote in person, and none of his rich friends will, either.

Besides, GOP loves low voter turnout, and what better way to ensure a low turnout then making voters stand in line during a pandemic.

What's the percentage of wasted votes for in-person voting, anyway? I know nobody can honestly tell me it's 0%.

Sorry for the random thoughts!

 

If voters don't want to stand in line to vote, what makes anyone who wants the economy open think the employees will go back?

 

Of course it is. Everyone knows it. All trump spouts anymore is lying bullshit.
Back in the day, he was too stupid to register to vote correctly and was turned away from every polling station he tried to crash, proving that voter fraud is very hard to do.

 

Hunger trumps politics? I know a lot of people don't really want to go out to work now, either. My wife's employer is putting everyone on a 2-day a week schedule permanently starting next January. They're all staying home until then. Everybody else is jealous as hell. I don't know anybody who says they'd rather not work-at-home.

 

He is such a piece of garbage.

 

Five states have completely mail in voting. I don't recall there were much outrage in those states about ballots being thrown in the trash.

 

Your conclusion don't hunt:


The latest Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll survey finds that 70 percent of voters support a mail-in option, including 88 percent of Democrats, 71 percent of independents and 50 percent of Republicans.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509775-poll-70-percent-of-americans-support-voting-by-mail

 

The Republicans are so clueless, fraudulent, or/and vicious to destroy the right to vote! Mow Trump just wants Americans to lose the right to vote!

And I suggest to anyone who repeatedly has mail fail to deliver important or costly mail just send it through the USPS just SEND IT BY ALL THEIR PREFERRED DELIVERY PROVIDER!

Whether it is important payments or ABSENTEE BALLOTS, just send it by UPS, FEDEX, or whatever, or just send it USPS and spend $3 and register it and you can see the signature of where and who got it!

It is a LIE that only the USPS is the only option, and if anyone doesn't like the workers (often veterans and disabled veterans), just go to FEDEX!

What a back of whiners the Trump Press!

This all just goes to show that the Republicans Propaganda Press has no interest of allowing voting by regular people who have jobs and don't have a personal bodyguard to handle the issue!

The Republicans have screwed up voting where people have to drive 50 or a 100 miles to register (women, don't forget your official marriage and divorce certificates!), then go back to wait to 4 hours, 6 hours or more to actually vote!

Of course, these (up to 80%) of polling places been closed in order to provide entire blocks of people having to wait those hours (with COVID and no pay!), and then have polling people say its not there or the Republicans threw away anyone with a similar name!

When even a billionaire can't find out where to vote! And notice Trumps efforts to bully the poll people from accepting his vote! He is mad because he can't fraudulently vote! That is why Trump thinks everyone is cheating is because he expects it!

So even if the 3% of a Absentee ballot is true, it is very likely that is still better than in-personal voting and all the road blocks Republicans put out to sabotage voting! And if Absentee voting cost a vote, at least the working guy isn't losing a day's pay and car fare!

 

I don't see this as a party issue. It's a problem on both sides with everyone accusing each other of all kinds of things to win the votes.

I agree that it's safer to send votes via registered mail for a small fee. I wonder if that catches on and pumps some much needed revenue in the PO's coffer.

 

Exactly.

Trump is a Total LOSER. And, he knows it.

That said, only about 1/3 of America (Trump's "Base") buys into this Utterly Misguided "Mail-In Conspiracy".

The other 2/3 are perfectly happy with the current system.

Mail-in voting will work just fine.

And, "stories" (like the one in the OP) can be fabricated at any time that Trump seeks confirmation bias (for Trump's IMBECILIC Conspiracies).

It will all Fall on Deaf Ears, and on Jan. 20, 2021 Trump will be out of office.
At this point, Trump might as well be screaming at the sky.

He is toast.

 

That will NEVER happen, because it would serve almost like a Poll Tax.

All Mail-In Return Envelopes need to be Post Paid.

Voters shouldn't even have to be bothered to buy a stamp.

 

I absolutely agree that voters SHOULD NOT have to pay to vote. I was agreeing with the idea presented that registered mail would be a way to ENSURE that one's vote was actually received. Of course, that doesn't mean it's counted, just that it has been received.

 

Many states are not forcing it, they are offering it as an alternative for those who don't want to risk corona virus to vote. Also, in my state of Colorado where every registered voter is mailed a ballot automatically, I can vote one of three ways. 1) drop it in the mail, 2) drop it at a drop box at county sites, or 3) vote in person.

The better question is why do we make voting inaccessible for any reason? Other than for the GOP to keep a hold on power as it becomes a minority party? Because that's the only reason to limit vote, is to do so because you think you will win.

To say that mail in voting is 100% perfect isn't true. Voting in person isn't 100% perfect either. Both are about 99.9% perfect, however, so we should allow people to choose. It's sort of a "duh" thing.

 

Will someone answer this. If we go to all mail in voting, and I do not receive my ballot timely, what recourse do I have so my vote will count?

 

Exactly. Every move from either side is to gain an unfair advantage. Pelosi would not be pushing vote by mail if it didn't give her side of the same ugly coin an unfair advantage. Trumps wanted to delay it for the same reason.

No one suggested making voting inaccessible and you only criticized the GOP. Is your position that Dems are any different?

 

Uh, no.

What you just said is that Pelosi is as bad as Trump because she wants all people eligible to vote to vote. To state it another way, if more people who were eligible to vote voted, democrats would win, thus that's using voting to her advantage...yeah I can't really finish that thought because it's sort of silly. I mean, sorry that you guys can't win in a democratic election...I guess sorry? Maybe stop alienating so many voters? I don't know.

Yes, I only criticized the GOP because they are attempting to ensure that fewer people vote so they can win. Democrats are ensuring more people vote, thinking they will win. I mean, it's a contest. Both sides are TRYING to win. How you win matters, thought. But the two are not the same thing and if you can't see that then you have a serious problem.

As for your last question, that wasn't the discussion being had at all, but the answer is obviously yes. The idea of a fair election is that everyone votes and who they all vote for, wins. So in this case, yes the democrats are different and better. Happy?

 

The answer doesn't matter because no one, to my knowledge, is saying we go to 100% mail in voting. My understanding is the position is to make is available without justification so people don't have to choose risking getting corona or voting in person. So you could still vote in person if you don't get a ballot. In my state, that's what you have to do if your ballot doesn't arrive in the mail. You could request another, but they will say that there's a chance they can't replace them quick enough. So while they will resend the ballot after a verification, they encourage you to vote in person in that scenario. It's never happened once to me personally nor to anyone i know in Colorado, but I'm sure it's happened. With what frequency I can't say. Though given how Coloradans support our voting system, I doubt it happens often or else that support would be less.

 

So I have a serious problem seeing both sides as untrustworthy? Trusting politicians shows gullibility on your part, not trustworthiness on theirs.

 

Oh, I see the problem. You didn't comprehend what's being said. I never used the word trust. I stated both parties intentions, and then noted how they were going about accomplishing those intentions. None of that involves trust of any kind. I don't "trust" that a lion will hunt a zebra. I know it will because that's what a lion does. Politicians try to win elections. It's how they get hired. If one politician says, "I want to win, and in order to do so, everyone who CAN vote SHOULD vote," well I align with that intention. As does the law. But when another says, " I want to win, but the only way to do so is to make it harder for people to vote," well I don't align with that because that's unethical and a violation of our democratic values. Yes, we are a democratic republic, and as such, hold to democratic values, which say that everyone eligible gets a vote. So again, no trust involved, dude. And just to be clear, when the southern democrats denied black people the right to vote, and if I could, I would go back in time and have the same, consistent view point. Any clearer?

 

Bias is not difficult to comprehend. You're a Dem and everything Dems want is in the public's best interest, right?

 

Just do what you would do know.

Get a registered mail, return receipt requested.

All done!

Of course, our President, before he was President, didn't know his polling place and how to vote and was a utterly pissed and was only by being shamed by publicity even bothered to do a provisional ballot!

 

Make ballot harvesting ILLEGAL and I might get behind it, but democrats will NEVER allow that. Ballot Harvesting is how they cheat.

 

Trump just told foreign countries to send in fake ballots to clog up the system, what an idiot, so looks like gonna take longer to count this year

 

wasn't it republicans caught ballot harvesting?