Protest the Establishment at their Homes!

Trump is a communist!

 

Well stealing money from the people to give to the petroleum industry isn't libertarian either.

You said communism was libertarian. No, a minimum wage isn't libertarian.

 

Subsidising things with tax dollars isn't communism. Stealing money from people to pay people for doing nothing is.

 

Ok so you're fine with giving tax money to corporations but not people.

America's richest 400 families now pay a lower tax rate than the middle class

 

No taxation is theft that is a libertarian viewpoint. Stealing money from people to give it to other people for nothing is anti-liberal and anti-libertarian it is communism.

Stealing the money to give to people who produce food is less of a waste. That's at least getting something for your money rather than a bunch of entitled man babies.

 

Rolling Stone? That you get your news from Rolling Stone explains everything.

BTW, Depreciation isn't a subsidy. It's in the tax law.

We haven't suffered Communism since The Obama and his chosen successor were booted out of power.

 

The owner class wouldn't exist without their workers. Jeff Bezos didnt become a billionaire on his own. The basic point is that a UBI wouldn't be needed if employers paid a living wage. Half of the country is poor. 44% make $18k per year.

In a capitalist corporation, all the decisions are made by a handful of people at the top. The workers have no say. If it was run democratically, the CEO wouldn't be making 300 times more than the workers. Hence the solution is not more government spending, but rather democratization of the workplace.

 

Bone up on the taxcode.
1. Families file individual tax returns, not corporate tax returns.
2. Income isn't wealth.
3. The top income earners historically only show up 1 or a maximum of 2 consecutive years, with overwhelmingly capital gains earnings.
4. Summary: After working for 40 years to build their business, taking little in salary along the way, the vast majority of these people sell their business in order to enjoy the fruits of their life's work in retirement ,,, and you want to steal their life from them. That is disgusting.

 

Friedman proposed it as a replacement for the social safety net, not an addition to it, unless I misunderstood you and you support doing away with Medicaid, SNAP, and all other subsidies to the poor?

 

another way to put it is "America's richest 400 families pay the same capital gains rate as the middle class" but I guess the truth doesn't have the same wow factor.

 

What the hell is a “owner class”?

Oh you mean people who create jobs and add cash and tax flow into the economy. Often by their unique ability to see a opportunity and their ability to capitalize on it.

Free advice time!

Less time feeling sorry for yourself and more time making your life batter thru your actions, not waiting for others to act to make it better.

 

right he became a billionaire because people wanted to work for him and choose to do so.

If people who work for Amazon feel that it's unfair they can quit theycan find another job we can go into business for themselves, they can obtain more skills.

Jeff bezos became a billionaire because people wanted him to be.

UBI isn't needed. People weren't happy with what they got paid they wouldn't work for those people.

Last time I was looking for a job I was offered what and they said they could only pay me this much money and I said they'd have to come up on it if they want me to work for them and they said no. there was people with guns that forced me to work there I walked away.

I felt my libre was worth more than what they were willing to pay.

What needs to happen is either people need to acquire more skills or they need to value their own labor more.

Ithe workplaces are ready democratized as much as it could possibly be. If you don't feel like you're making enough money you don't have to work for the people that are paying you that amount of money. You can vote by ending your employment.

The system where people don't have that option is communism.

 

Half of the country has barely a basic education and no appreciable job skills.

 

I'm still waiting for you to address your apparent endorsement of the mob tactic of terrorizing politicians into submission.

Until you address that, I don't care about anything you have to say, because no matter how noble your cause may be, your tactics are still insane.

 

They might as well be selling religion door to door.

No such thing as a "peoples Stimulus" The term itself is misleading A more accurate term would be. Stealing dollars and giving pennies.
UBI, same thing. By the time the dollar makes its way through the circuitous government, there is little left.
Medicare for all is nothing more than funneling money to the pharm industry while Americans just get sicker.
Subsidize wages? Where do they get the money for that? From wages!
Want lower rent, get a roommate.
Want help with your mortgage? Rent a room, list your property on AirBNB.


Question for those who believe in this stuff: Why not just form a group of like-minded people, pull resources for the greater good of the group, and let the world see a successful model of your ideology? What is stopping you?

 

Plenty is going to “the people”. If we use the only accurate measure of poverty, consumption, we see the people are making out like bandits.

Above quote from this source.
https://leo.nd.edu/assets/339909/2018_consumption_poverty_report_1_.pdf

 

Remember the worker class would all starve without the “owner class”.

Half of the country is not “poor”.

I’m pretty much all for socialism and democratization of businesses. With one caveat. It must all be voluntary. Start a worker controlled business. Nobody will stop you. Such a system doesn’t exist because 99% of people don’t want the responsibilities of running a business and taking risks or they aren’t intelligent and/or educated enough to do so. And this will never change because it’s innate human nature.

 

TO MAKE FOOD?? lol
You do know the government pays farmers not to farm also that's all a part of these subsidies

 

Ha!



And don't she and her husband look thrilled to be dealing with the insane leftist monster she helped to create?

 

Of course the workers have a say. They can say "You're not paying me enough, I quit"

 

But you'll agree farmers are more important than couch potatoes.

They do produce our food.

 

You have a bad habit of picking words for dramatic affect rather than picking words who's meaning matches the context. I see it over and over and over again with you. Learn that words have actual meanings and those represent boundaries on the concept they are meant to represent. Before you are tempted to engage in hyperbole, or exagerate for impact, make sure that the words you pick match the concepts as described by the definition. Levying taxes is NOT stealing. and allocating revenue to people acquired from taxes is not communism.

Your passionate disapproval does not really give you license to warp common meaning and twist understanding to suit your agenda.

 

The word is not hyperbolic I did not use it for dramatic effect it is apt.

So if you have an argument for communism I'll hear it if you want to gripe and complain because I call a spade a spade I'm going to dismiss you.

 

You have it wrong again. I was griping because first you called a spade a deck of cards, and then you called a deck of cards a game of canasta. You habitually call anything anything for dramatic affect. Its silly.

levying and collecting taxes are very different from 'stealing'. The government makes every effort to let you know what you will owe, when you will owe it, allows you both political and legal representation to fight it, and offers you a broad spectrum of options so you can predict and mitigate your tax burden by altering any number of variables well in advance of the debt.

The most basic being if you don't want to pay it, MOVE OUT OF THE TAXING JURISDICTION. Just stop whining like a baby and lying about it and take control of your own lifestyle. You are not a victim of a theft. You are just like all the rest of the world that knew you would be charged for services, and then does not want to pay for them.

 

You can squeal about me being wrong until time stops I'm not.