Send Kids Back to School?

40% of the kids at a Georgia YMCA tested positive for covid.

260 of them

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/georgia-ymca-camp-covid-19-outbreak-260_n_5f24a33cc5b68fbfc8833269


There is no way schools can open up

Unless you want to lock down the country again

 

If grocery stores can be open and there can be a celebration of life for John Lewis I say open the schools. Life itself is a gamble.

 

Why?

Those are totally different things and none of them resulted in 40% infections of attendees.

 

It’s likely possible for some schools to reopen in some locales. Since we’ve turned the virus response into a political football if I were a parent of a school aged child I wouldn’t assume the risk.

 

I was afraid of something like this?

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/can-we-be-ready-to-open-schools-in-the-fall.574301/

 

Wow. Do you have children?

When I go to the grocery store, I wear a mask and keep my distance. Most of the people I encounter do the same. The grocery store is not as crowded as a school or the YMCA. Your analogy is not relevant.

 

Same restrictions can be applied to schools. We can do anything we have a desire to, it just takes planning, like the Panama Canal or putting a man on the moon and returning him to earth. Wringing our hands and claiming the sky is falling will ruin our country. Come on folks, put on your thinking caps, and get creative.

 

Correct. And, it harder to socially distance in a classroom and all the intermingling when changing classes. What will the schools do about cleaning and disinfecting everything between students? There are no easy answers here.

 

Okey dokey….then how do kids eat lunch at school with their masks on?
How do we know they keep their masks on in the restrooms....gotta take 'em off to smoke and smooch...



How do we know they don't take them off because their dolt parents said they don't really need them?

C'mon, tell me about this creative 21st century "planning" to figure all that out and make it work ???

 

I say don't worry about the kids going back to government indoctrination camps for awhile longer. Let them stay home, play video games, surf internet porn sites, smoke some weed and be kids. You can just as easily teach your kids the basics, American is a sexist racist country, Cops are POS, 2+2 = whatever makes you happy, BLM rocks and all others suck, and always vote Democrat. There that takes you through the curriculum.

 

You just graduated high school and got your GED (Git Er Dun)

 

Private Catholic School got out in three.

 

Schools here are giving parents a choice for their children, distance learning or go in person. Most are choosing to send their kids in person to school.

The Catholics here also have that choice, and the vast majority are sending their kids in person to Catholic school.

They know that distance learning is inferior, and they don't want to harm their children's futures.

 

Not being a big fan of what passes as government school "education" all I can say is inferior is inferior no matter how it is provided. So the choice is inferior in school versus what more inferior via distance learning.

 

The value of going to school K-12 is in the naturally occurring and imposed socialization far, far more than the mere academics

 

Don't disagree but let them go to a playground and/or play with the neighborhood kids outdoors.

 

If that is so, you have illustrated exactly why parents cannot be trusted to make this decision, and schools should be shut down.

 

Nobody is asking children to not go to school K-12. Just this year.

If we did it right, it would be half a year. But too many parents (mostly Trump supporters who politicize this) refuse to do this right. The governor of my state (Florida) is leadership-impaired, so he can't do it right.

Given the above, this will likely continue for at least a year.

I remember AI models showing that if we had kept everything everything closed for just two more weeks in May. The last Covid 19 infection would have occurred in early September

 

What do you think "doing it right" would have meant at the time this started? What is it now?

Last school year teachers and faculty scrambled to ramp up to online learning. It would seem like they would be better prepared with some workable solutions for this coming school year. I just cannot figure out what that would be and if it could prove deadly if not done right.

 

Both cases, the same answer: follow the expert guidelines. The CDC has given in to Trump by softening their guidelines for returning to school. I guess the reasoning is that they do what they can with the limited options they have. It's one of the great disasters of having elected a President* who cares more about his reelection than about human life.

In my county, kids can attend normally, or they can attend the same class virtually. At the level we are in, made worse by so many people (most of them Trump supporters) who still refuse to wear a mask, it's likely that will increase the infection rate and the death rate.

 

I'd love to see these surveys.

I kinda think parents worry more about their kids' health as well as their own.

It's pretty apparent given the events in Georgia that infection is going to spread WORSE than now if they open schools

 

At the beginning we were told to shelter-in-place and the virus would "magically disappear". People, for the most part, complied.
Fauci then stated that masks were not necessary (when it was based on them not diminishing the supply so medical personnel had them).
When he changed the tune and suggested masks, people mostly complied.
People also complied with the six foot social distancing rules and coped with the limitations on grocery runs and number of people in stores.
Now, he is recommending face shields and goggles.

The point being is people, minus the dig-my-heels in types, have been following the recommendations and we are no closer to flattening the curve or reopening our economy. I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm exhausted from it all.

It sounds like a good idea for the student to have an option to attend in-person on virtually. I hope that works out for you all in spite of the ones that do not want to cooperate and help be part of the solution.

 

Not really.

Still a lot of people in a confined space, even more so for Lewis’ celebration of life. Schools are no different.

 

That's not true. Texas and Florida, and California and the rest of the Sun Belt threw all of that out the window and THAT is why we are "no closer to flattening the curve".

States that got hit early like NY and NJ and Conn got scared shitless by it and HAVE done what you say above and HAVE flattened the curve and are managing the virus

 

Would you say that the majority in those areas did NOT follow recommendations as they were issued by the administration? I'm not sure there is any raw data that would help us know who did and didn't comply. And, I live in a very small town and most of my neighbors are seniors so I see a different response where I am.

Edited to add: The ONLY people I've seen that haven't complied with the recommendations are my next door neighbors. They went wherever they wanted as often as they wanted without using masks or shields when they were required to stay indoors in quarantine.