Republicans think slavery was a necessary evil???

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  1. quiller

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    You left off showing me the Republicans --- from even earlier.
     
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    Can I get a witness on Robert Byrd, or Strom Thurmond?
     
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    So?
     
  6. quiller

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    So I don't use Twitter. Shall I introduce you to the concept that adults won't bother?
     
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    You asked, I gave you an answer. That you don't want to look at it is not my problem.
     
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    Are you talking about Nathan Bedford Forrest? He was the main organizer of the KKK.

    Cutting through the political B.S., race politics was, is and always will be the bailiwick of Democrats. Both the Ds and the Rs want to portray the appearance of being social liberals. Sometimes the Rs crouch their language in what is "legal" or "illegal" (as if Congress had the authority to criminalize Liberty), but the Rs have become advocates of the POLICE STATE. Democrats have always been the super rich like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Oprah Winfrey, Warren Buffett, etc., etc. financing the party that was moved by mob rule. The rich don't care about the hue of the skin. They simply want to control those with a mob mentality. Today, that happens to be stupid whites that think the black man needs whites to validate them and really racist blacks that wage a war of genocide against whites.

    There, it's out in the open. That is accurate and true. The whole build a wall, hate the little brown people from south of the border were clearly ideas generated by the Democrats. The fact that the Ds got their man Trump elected - and Trump appealed to the National Socialists, who then won a presidential campaign off of Bill Clinton's agenda shows their superiority in political guerrilla warfare. Now, the Rs are split with the Lincoln Project advocating Republicans not vote for the Pretender in Chief. The Republican Party has met its demise. Democrats are saddled with the likes of Bernie Sanders (the democratic socialist) and a possible VP nominee that was pro-Fidel Castro. BOTH the Ds and Rs are for slavery. You slap a little lipstick on the pig, call it something different and the masses eat it up. Is slavery evil? I don't have a clue. I just know it's a reality of life and if it's packaged just right, the Ds and the Rs are all for it. Most of you here are too.
     
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    (*cringes*) My mistake about Thomas versus Forrest.

    I was listening to "Spinning Wheel" at the time, sung by David Clayton Thomas.
     
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    It was necessary to enable landowners to treat the landless like slaves. In feudal Europe, the landowners' model, all the usable land was already privately owned, so the landless had no options but subsistence labor for a landowner or starvation, and landowners could therefore treat them like slaves without all the trouble of actually owning them. In America, there was so much good land available that if landowners treated their workers like slaves, the workers would just leave and take up some good land of their own -- and many did. So the American landowners actually needed to enslave their workers in order to be able to treat them as slaves.

    By the end of the Civil War, the good land had all been appropriated as private property except in the West, and former slaves did not have the capital to take on that kind of expedition: they never got the mule, let alone the forty acres. So they were stuck, as landless European wage slaves were. It was widely remarked as a mystery, even decades after Emancipation, that the former slaves, now sharecroppers, did not appear to have benefited much from their liberty. Only a vanishing few understood why:

    "During the war I served in a Kentucky regiment in the Federal army. When the war
    broke out, my father owned sixty slaves. I had not been back to my old Kentucky
    home for years until a short time ago, when I was met by one of my father's old
    negroes, who said to me: 'Master George, you say you set us free; but before God,
    I'm worse off than when I belonged to your father.' The planters, on the other hand, are contented with the change. They say, 'How foolish it was in us to go to war for slavery. We get labor cheaper now than when we owned the slaves.' How do they get it cheaper? Why, in the shape of rents they take more of the labor of the negro than they could under slavery, for then they were compelled to return him sufficient food, clothing and medical attendance to keep him well, and were compelled by conscience and public opinion, as well as by law, to keep him when he could no longer work. Now their interest and responsibility cease when they have got all the work out of him they can."


    From a letter by George M. Jackson, St. Louis. Dated August 15, 1885.
     
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    What evidence, other than the Fake News, do you have that Cotton thinks any such thing?
     
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    Well it’s part of the congressional record. Just why he said such a dumb thing is in debate.
     
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    He never said that he thinks such a thing.
     
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    USA has one of the worst Human Rights records.
     
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    As opposed to which countries in comparison, precisely? How does the united states compare to the nation of Africa with regard to human rights, when it is still practicing slavery and genocide to this very day?
     
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    That's odd, I don't recall a Cultural Revolution here, as in China, or millions of deaths caused by the overthrow of our government (Russian under Stalin). I don't recall all killing fields like Cambodia.

    Just what kind were YOU talking about? Inquiring minds want to know.
     
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    Just for fun, you ought to read up on what kind of information they gather about you.
     
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    1) Slavery

    2) Genocide of indigenous people

    3) Murder of 3 million civilians in Korea and Southeast Asia

    4) Massive incarceration since 1990s
     
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    USA has much much worse Human Rights record then Scandinavia, Canada and France.
     
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    How many times must it be pointed out that the united states is not, never has been, and never will be a part of the above cited countries, before such is finally accepted and they are no longer mentioned for comparison?
     
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    Cotton was describing the beliefs of the times, not his own beliefs.
     
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    In XIXth Century, most Europe had been free for a long time.
     
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    And what does Europe have to do with American slavery?
     
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    I think it's fair to say Tom Cotton thinks slavery was a necessary evil, because Tom Cotton is a nincompoop.

    Assuming all Republicans share his beliefs is wrong though.
     
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    No. It's a slander to say that Cotton thinks slavery was a necessaty evil. Please just stop.
     

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