Just thinking what I would do if I was a young black.

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Can't count how many times I had interacted with police including a couple of "white guy in a black neighborhood" stops getting to factories through black areas. Simply be polite give them the ID ask what I am doing, tell them and get a "have a nice day".
     
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    Same here mostly. I've had some nasty encounters through no fault of my own (very messy divorce). I don't hate all LEOs and I don't blame them for what some other LEOs did to me. That is why I wrote Post #3.
     
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    Diallo ran and died Michael Brown charged the cops and died. Cat in New York selling loosies decided to resist arrest, had a heart attack and died on the way to the hospital, dude in Atlanta, ran from the cops and died. Running from the cops gives you a 99% chance of a bad outcome cussing them while you do it does not improve things. Treat cops like you do everyone else and your outcome will almost certainly be much better.
     
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    The games are inside your head, IMO.

    My secret works for its common sense. Works for all colors. Try it.
     
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    Maybe you're right. But considering the bad cop(s) might simply get a slap on the wrist for your complaint....doesn't really change his "bad attitude".
    If enough people can see what those "bad cops" are doing, maybe then something will be done about them.
    Even a few bad cops in a bunch can cause a lot of damage because the so called "good cops" are expected to back them up.
    Too bad some folks have to die before these bad cops can be dealt with.
     
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    Fine. I think the problem here is that you have a substantial number of people on the BLM side calling for defunding of police departments, not "some" police departments, and not "improvement" of police departments, but "defunding the police," because "the police do this and the police do that," grossly generalizing and overestimating the extent of racism in our police departments and ignoring legitimate concerns of law enforcement.

    But literally no one who "Backs the Blue" is publicly smearing all members of any group, other than violent protesters. Who on the right is calling for suppression of lawful, non violent assembly? Who on the right is on the streets denouncing African Americans or even supporting the officers arrested in the Minneapolis case?

    I am loathe to just blame one side, but the left makes it hard to do otherwise.
     
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    Keep in mind that it's very easy for people to throw out blanket ideas without having any real understanding of the problem or practical ways to fix it. The protesters and rioters are worked up over their cause and seem to think their actions will cause change. It doesn't appear they understand they are going about it the wrong way and alienating people to their cause. In that sense, I sympathize with them because they don't get their actions are counterproductive.

    The reality is there has to be some changes within the way LEOs deal with ALL people and especially those whom are regularly targeted for no reason other than the color of their skin, age bracket, style of clothing, etc.. Of course, someone will come along and say that police brutality doesn't exist which further fuels the anger and frustration people feel because they have experienced it. I've experienced it and I'm on the calmest and most cooperative people on the planet but that didn't matter to the responding officers. I don't begrudge the WHOLE department because of one or two rogue cops that are essentially grade school bullies that can't control themselves. Yet, I can understand the pain and frustration that comes from being hurt by the very people who take an oath to serve and protect.

    The fact is there are no easy answers here. It may take a long time before people (on both sides) are willing to peacefully communicate to effect positive change so tensions do not escalate to the point where they are right now. Only time will tell if we can find a way to come together to make that change so ALL people can feel the police are professional, responsive and truly serving and protecting the people of their communities.
     
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    Anothe voice from the hate nazi's
    What a hoot. Do you know that the cop is attacking your constitutional rights by even asking you for your ID without a reason , If he demanded that and you would give in, so easily dumping your rights as a American, how far would you go to please this man, any sexual favors. Just wondering.
     
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    The rights hate party makes it so I can't support anything they offer. Its easy to respect the truth and the truth says the right is ugly and hate based so the left is the only choice.
     
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    I will try to be nice , first you have no clue what you are talking about , to prove it I'll simpler refer to our history in this great country, protest riots and violence a absolute must in just about every aspect of this countries history starting with it's origin. Our forefathers knew dam well that a few eggs hat to be broken to create this great country and protest and riots where the tools that made this country. Those tools created this country, ended slavery, segregation, wars, and we are watching as it ends and gets rid of the hate group that the right calls a party.
     
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    How so?
     
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    the white woman properly racially profiled him because blacks are more likely to be armed and violent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
     
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    He has a right to ask and I can refuse if I want and be taken to the police station until they can ascertain who I am if they have a reasonable suspicion. YOUR attitude and claims about constitutional rights is what will ratchet up the situation until they do decide they have that reasonable suspicion. Why would you refuse to identify yourself? If they are looking for someone and I fit the description the first thing I want to do is show them I am NOT that person.

    And I deleted your stupid juvenile question, do try to keep it on a higher adult level.
     
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    Then why did Dr. Martin Luther King advocate non-violence and gained so much by following that. Do you REALLY think the violence BLM and Antifa are engaged in is winning the hearts and minds? And it seems the only hate I see is coming from your side.
     
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    Have you seen Donald hightail it away from covid science? That chub can motor when he wants to
     
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    Unresponsive.

    But here's the thing. You are safer raising a BLM banner in the middle of a Back the Blue rally than I would be raising a Back the Blue banner in the middle of a BLM rally. That's because we respect your right to disagree. Unfortunately, your side doesn't show us the same courtesy.

    We aren't ugly, and saying it over and over, like burning down the federal courthouse, doesn't make it so.
     
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    Blm and Antifa haven't been associated with one hate killings in this country , but you haters have been associated with a hundreds in this country, That begs the question, why are you bringing up Antifa and BLM when you people do all the killing . Seems rather stupid doesn't it. Lets hear some more lies. That is all you people have.
     
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    If I was a young black man, I'd smoke weed and do cocaine, then skate my way through Columbia after I got in based on my skin color...paid for by somebody (white taxpayers)...I'd have a Marxist mentor and attend the church of a racist pastor. My mother would be a white whore and my daddy a drunk kenyan.

    Then I'd become President and blame everything on whites. The same racists that got me elected President. Yeah, I'd be the biggest POS alive.
     
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    Thank you for confirming my point with your vulgarity and anger.
     
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    They are associated with the violence that is across the country and where yes deaths have occurred and I am no associated with any killings so stop with the ad hom smears or your post will be reported.

    Now address what I posted

    Then why did Dr. Martin Luther King advocate non-violence and gained so much by following that. Do you REALLY think the violence BLM and Antifa are engaged in is winning the hearts and minds?
     
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    You are welcome , good bye
     
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    So i missed this , you are threatening me that because I have a opinion you don't like you are going to tell on me . So you will make trouble for me , so since I don't need any trouble there is only one obvious recourse. Kind of brainless to play that game if you want others to read what You have to share. It has been a slice.
     
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    Truth hurts.
     
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    What makes you think it was a white woman who called the police on him? I was using the word "Karen" generically.

    Anyway, whoever called the police on the guy may be culpable because she/he absolutely insisted he was armed and either pointing the gun at the passenger in the car, or just holding a gun. He had no gun.

    Police 911 call. Voice is masked so you can't tell if male/female.



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    https://www.kvue.com/article/news/l...ased/269-67f4908c-1d85-4d13-8d5b-ebc40a17fa81
     
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    Nevermind, looks like it was a less-lethal round. It did seem to escalate dramatically when they bean-bagged him.
     
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