Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

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  1. quiller

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    Not really. The number of posts attacking me on my beliefs says I hit a sore spot and I am definitely over the target.
     
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    Who attacked you? Disagreeing and attacking are two separate things.
     
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    Unless you can back up your beliefs with actual proof then that's all they are...YOUR beliefs. Which, sorry, don't amount to much
     
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    "By gum, I'll get the answers I want if it kills me!" Just don't count the ones you don't like and say they didn't answer.
     
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    You mean like how you attack people who have abortions as murderers and those who are pro-choice as supporting murder???
     
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    No idea what you're even trying to say. You seem confused.
     
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    No you don't - you inferred that all liberals are murderers - and then claimed that is not what you said - but keep confirming that that is what you both said - and meant.

    Nor do you know what the word "human being" means - as you bastardize the term constantly - as you have done in this post.

    A zygote is not a "Human Being" as in the noun form verses the descriptive adjective

    In this post - you have claimed that killing a sperm is murder - but you don't realize what you have claimed.

    You don't know what words mean - clearly.
     
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    Naming names gets people put on time outs here.
     
  9. quiller

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    I'm saying it was rigged. Don't like an answer? Count it as not answering.
     
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    OK. Why do you feel attacked?
     
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    It's a baby at that stage of a baby's, a human being, life just as every human that has ever existed went through. It will not turn into something else besides being a human being, a baby. The human life begins at the moment of conception not at some distant arbitrary point in time. And as you noted only at that stage for 30 hours so all the clamoring about "IT"S A ZYGOTE" are mute to the subject of abortion anyway.
     
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    Your claim makes no sense since the graph shows data for
    Agreeing with own party
    Agreeing with Dems
    Don't agree with either party

    Really what's going on here is YOU don't like that you're wrong about your claim that ONLY liberals have abortions.
     
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    No it doesn't. It's perfectly fine to quote the persons post. Stop making excuses
     
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    It's a baby. A human being. I bastardize nothing and refuse to allow liberals to define any term I use. If I started accusing liberals of things THEY do not know, I would still be here in 2042 and still typing.

    "In this post" meaning the one you quoted? I didn't mention killing sperm. I did it in a different post tangentially mentioning spermicidal creams and jellies. Are you surprised I support the PREVENTION of pregnancy? You shouldn't be. It avoids cold-blooded murder of a human being.
     
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    I said liberals are the ones who are loudest in calling to support it. Conservatives are clearly outnumbered in that regard. (These threads indicate that much.)
     
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    I have been warned by moderators to not flamebait. Yes, it does. My "excuse" is a desire to not be banned.
     
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    Because leftists with crackpot ideas keep inviting me to share their hallucinations.
     
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    How do you know the people in this thread that are for CHOICE are liberals? You assumed I was which is completely wrong. There ARE other's like me, as shown in the graph, that aren't liberals who support women having the choice.
     
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    It's not flamebaiting to quote someone's post. Stop being disingenuous.
     
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    Would you consider that response to be an attack against leftists? You've called them "crackpots" and say they have "hallucinations".

    Why is that okay from/to either direction?
     
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    Do as I say, not as I do
     
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    I am following what I have been told more than once.Thin-skinned people abound here. My post (which obviously can trigger a leftist without any trouble whatsoever) leads to the attacks ... and the series of posts gets wiped out by a mod. Do not deny this happens on a regular basis here. If threads deteriorate was the phrase, wasn't it?

    Little very old me? I open up and the others let it deteriorate. Very simple and predictable. Liberals are relentless negativity-artists. Doesn't take much to ring their chimes. Abortion's only one. Only one.

    No links to the attacks. Not any more. Too bad, too. I had some of these people wound so tight their eyes bulged out.
     
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    A baby is human being that has been born. You can call things what you like, but it doesn't make it true.

    When a human life becomes a person is a philosophical position.

    This section from Roe v Wade holds true today:

    We need not resolve the difficult question of when life begins. When those trained in the respective disciplines of medicine, philosophy, and theology are unable to arrive at any consensus, the judiciary, at this point in the development of man's knowledge, is not in a position to speculate as to the answer.

    The degree of infant mortality in the ancient world resulted in a practice of not "counting" infants under the age of one month. There are references to this in the old testament. There are other verses describing God killing the unborn.

    It's not a forgone conclusion that a life becomes a person at conception. What we do know is that women have rights. Abortion is a constitutional right. The politics of abortion is a divisive tactic which has Americans calling their political opponents baby killers. Pretty disgusting, IMO. And ignorant of the issue as a whole.

     
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    If they think Biden will be president, it is either a hallucination or indication of pharmaceutical misuse. If they think socialism will ever work in America....same answer.

    If they think that human beings do not begin at conception, what part of crackpot does not apply? Do nothing, it's born a baby. Not a "zygote" or other pseudoscientific term to mask it's a baby.
     
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    Seems you're the one who is triggered with all the whining you're doing ;)
     

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