Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    The question isn't what they believe or don't believe. My question is "Why is it okay for you to call other people (that you disagree with) names like "crackpot" and say they are "hallucinating"? It just seems like a double-standard since you say that you are being attacked.
     
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    Who is being denied anything? The Republicans a simply allowing companies and business owners who are morally against abortions the opportunity to not to be forced to pay for them. Anyone that wants an abortion or birth control still have access to both.
     
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    quiller Well-Known Member

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    Liberals have plenty of standards, for every occasion. You object to my being a newfound leftist? I said I was!

    Name one other poster here who can unhinge more liberals in more posts on one single topic. See? Liberalism works!!!!
     
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    Unless she uses the morning after pill. That's irrelevant, anyway. Either a life begins at conception or it doesn't.
     
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    Not if they can't afford it on their own. Imagine a women needing life a saving abortion and having to pay for it out of her own pocket. Nice.
     
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    There are major differences among religions, as well.

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  7. quiller

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    You claim doctors would not arrange for a life-saving operation despite financial hardship? Or are you saying all hospitals would refuse her unless they were paid?

    *SNORK*
     
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    You keep returning to the same nonsense - like a dog returning to its own vomit.

    1) it is not a baby unless you can show the zygote is a living human - and you cant.
    2) there is no "moment" of conception
    3) That a zygote is part of the process of human creation - does not make the zygote a living human.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Running around crying "its a baby - its a baby" does not make it so.

    You claiming that a human sperm is a human - does not make it so. You claimed killing a "human being" - in the descriptive adjective sense rather than the noun (whether you realize it or not) - was murder. A Sperm is a human being in the sense you are using the word.

    You have had your backside handed to you many times in your efforts to show a zygote is a human - you either need to get a valid argument - or stop pretending a claim that you can not defend is defacto truth.
     
  10. MJ Davies

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    OK. So you added another insult by calling liberals "unhinged". Wow. Why do you feel attacked again?
     
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    Nope. But they would still have to come up with the money. So on top of needing a life saving medical procedure now they have to worry about how to pay it off. Real nice
    *SNORK*
     
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    It is amazing how much people complain about paying for something that will save there life. I find it hard to believe that someone would balk at paying $1000 or dieing. There is always the alternative, pro abortion people could set an abortion fund and fund it that way. Since 2008 Planned Parenthood has spent between $600000 and 1.8 million a year on lobbying, think of all the abortions they could have give to low income people instead. And this year the Planned Parenthood super pac has is going to spend 45 million on the up coming election. I just don't buy your poor people can't afford an abortion bs.
     
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    Seems he's the only one name calling.
     
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    And you keep throwing up your baseless and refuted vomit.

    1) It is a unique human being
    2) yes there is biology 101
    3) a stage in a human life every human life that has ever existed went through
     
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    Whew. Thanks for that. I thought I must have missed a ton of messages somewhere. ;-0
     
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    No, you're right...people needing food stamps always have a $1,000 or two laying around for things. My lord
     
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    People don't balk at paying for something that will save their life just to get out of paying. Many poor people rely on government assistance for housing and food. It's not like they are have a bankroll somewhere and just don't want to pay. They CAN'T pay.
     
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    Being unique does not make it a human being. Each sperm and egg is unique as well
    A stage where it cannot survive without a woman's womb. A woman who is another unique human life with rights.
     
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    Correct it is a human being regardless of the fact having to be consntantly repeated and your self-serving baseless denials notwithstanding.

    No it is not biology 101

    Then in a human being what life form is created at conception other than a human?
     
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    Except for the fact you have not posted one link to any reputable source to disprove it's a baby.

    I believe this. You believe that. The part in bold is what YOU should be following. Stop pretending "zygote" is not a baby.
     
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    I keep this up, libs here will clean up their acts entirely. I'm beginning to enjoy being a neolib.....
     
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    Big difference between a born baby and an unborn baby.
     
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    Yet again, no idea what you're going on about
     
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    Either vote it straight up or straight down or the argument wi;ll never end and the insults and worse will always be with us. I say, let's get this settled.
     
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    Absolutely---but it's STILL a baby.
     

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