Trump passes no insurance for abortions.

Liberals often don't. Ah me. It wounds me to the marrow of my very soul. I stagger around in sackcloth and ashes, or maybe that was just the bad barbecue sauce I forgot to wipe off and the sack is my old bathrobe that goes with the golf club to scare punks off my lawn. Stereotypes are important traditions, see. We old folks can afford to poke fun talking down to our youngsters....

 

Yes, let's get it settled. When is that vote again?

 

No matter how wrong you are in regards to your stereotype. Funny, I already explained to you I'm not a leftist yet here you are claiming I'm a liberal. Well, they do say the memory is the first thing to go. Cheers!

 

Whenever the petitions get approved and passed around and collected and verified. Same process that worked for Prohibition, so we know the process works.

 

Very true. Conservatives aren't shy. I can figure out who they are, so anyone remaining...? I'll try to remember but as you say I'm truly ready for the rocker and porch and the two cats in the yard like true Wyeth stuff. Woe is me, every scintilla of reality gone.

Perspective! I'm now in my third childhood and consider so many here to be vastly more liberal than myself. This makes me either too young to know better or too old to keep notes, tracking positions. And I get writing cramps. It's simply terrible trying to stay organized with liberals about.

 

Meaning what?

Absolutely there are differences. Let's talk about those. You can call it whatever you want.

Here's one difference.

If you murder a mother of a born baby, the baby survives. If you murder a pregnant woman, the baby dies.

 

Yet another nonsensical post - showing your lack of understanding of the subject matter - basic biology - and the English language.

1) Noun - "Human Being" the compound word/phrase "human being" - it is an alternate way of saying "a human" or "a Living Human" and that is what is being described.

Neither a sperm nor a zygote conforms to this definition of "Human Being"

2) Descriptive Adjective - "Human Being" In this usage of the term - anything that is both alive and "human" fits the definition -

Both the sperm and zygote conform to this definition of "Human Being"

If you wish to claim that the zygote conforms to definition 1 - Defacto - then prove your claim.

You have attempted to prove this claim numerous times in previous conversations - failing miserably - a complete disaster.

Hopefully you have something better this time.

 

Right...so there's no vote. Got it.

 

Getting old sucks. I'll be there soon enough. But one thing I won't do is try to fit people into boxes like some, ahem, do.
People who think for themselves don't fit into boxes. No one should follow lockstep with the entire platform of one party. I think a good mix of some sort shows a person has a brain and uses it.

 

Yup - it is both human and alive - just like a sperm - biology 101

What vomit are you referring to -given I agree with your claim -

So lost you are

 

The human life in the womb is living, it is being and that you do not understand the BASIC BIOLOGY 101 difference between a zygote, a human life, and a sperm proves you are in no position to argue the facts here.
My claim has been proven over and over and yet to be refuted. I have posted cite and cite and none have been refuted. All you have is you lack of knowledge of basic biology and your empty claims.

 

Nope, there are a MARKED differences between a human sperm or a human egg and a living human zygote. Biology 101 not your vomit you are spouting.

 

That is a legal difference not a scientific, biological, difference. Law can be changed, you can't change the biology.

It's a baby in the womb.

 

There is not much variation in the sperm and eggs of the particular person who created those cells but then they are not complete beings. Being able to survive on your own has nothing to do with being alive.

 

Dude - you just repeated the definition I gave you - " 2) Descriptive Adjective - "Human Being" In this usage of the term - anything that is both alive and "human" fits the definition"

and then you twirl around crying run "You Don't understand" My claim has been proven over and over.

We both agree that the zygote is both alive and human aka "human life"

Where you fall off the turnip truck is claiming that having these qualities defacto qualifies as "a human" "a baby"

This is the claim you have yet to prove - no need to return to the same vomit previously covered and refuted umpteen times.

 

Agreed - nor did I claim otherwise ... so why are you saying "NOPE" and what vomit are you referring to ?

So lost without hope you laughable claim is.

 

That makes no sense. The life or death of a baby is most definitely a biological difference.

"In the womb." Why do you just keep repeating this as if it's an argument? It's meaningless.

 

You cannot grasp the difference between judicial laws and biological fact? Judicial law does not change biological fact. Babies in the womb can be legally killed, babies just born now can be legally killed in some states, babies a few hours old cannot be legally killed.

 

The amount of variation is irrelevant. Your argument is uniqueness. Each sperm is unique, and therefore, a human being, according to your own argument.

My fingernails are alive. The criteria for being a separate human being from the mother is indeed based on survival. Of course an unborn baby is alive. Nobody has suggested it isn't.

 

The vomit you continue to spew like if you believe a zygote is a living human then you must believe a sperm is a living human. You have been trying to equate sperm and a zygote, glad you finally admit there are MARKED biological differences and your stating that if a principle applies to a zygote it must therefore apply to a sperm is utter folly.

 

I have no idea what you're going on about. Here's my post again.

We are discussing the difference between the born and the unborn. What I wrote above is a biological fact. You can refuse to address it if you want, but diverting the discussion by babbling about the judiciary isn't making any sense.

 

It is KEY and no your fingernails are not alive, they are an extruded substance that is part of the animal whose body extrudes them just like your hair. Try this, cut your fingernails and put the cut off parts in a dish, do they grow? What is the sense of life they exhibit? And no the criteria for life is not survival on your own and you will find not biological textbook that teaches such nonsense.

Again you have no understanding of biology or embryology exhibited by your lack of knowledge of the basic difference between sperm or egg and a zygote.

 

Okie-doke. Lol.

 

No - I did not state what you claim above. "Strawman Alert" - Blue has run out of material and has to start making false accusations .

It was your definition that equates the two - That you do not realize this - and are accusing me of what you are doing - classic "Projection" - is Priceless.

I have never denied Marked biological differences- and in fact was the one who educated you in the biological aspects of the process -
Yet another swing and a miss - Strawman 2 in one post . WAFJ

Batter up - he swings .... Strike #3 - I said no such thing - Strawman #3

3 false accusations in one post - along with a sound dose of Projection - Pat yourself on the back for that one Blues ..

 

Overpopulation sucks. I'm happy to live in upstate New York which has the same population as it did in 1950 basically