WALSH: George Floyd Bodycam Footage Is Out. We Weren't Told The Full Truth.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh....did you read the autopsy report and read that despite what you SAW, there was no evidence that pressure to the neck was the cause of death ? So you still think the violence, destruction, and death around the country is justified? you fail to see the correlation between unbelievable amounts of fentanyl and meth coursing through Floyds body as the likely cause? or do you just prefer to see the often preferred narrative that the news media and it's leftst minions want so badly to destroy America and this administration that any bend to the truth is justified? Do you fail to see how the media reported that Floyd was fully cooperative and only guilty of passing a counterfeit bill of which he possibly had no knowledge? Could you even take into consideration Floyds past criminal behavior or do you prefer the "sainthood" allowed him at his funeral the media so aptly portrayed? If so, then you willingly believe the lie and are complicit in the several times attempted Marxist overthrow of this Nation!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    then you probably don't ever want to watch the subsequent film of him resisting arrest and claiming not to breathe before he ever was on the ground. Like so many leftists you have made up your mind.
     
  3. Observing

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    he put the cops leg on him? when you get arrested and resist arrest and get treated roughly, I don't like it but I would expect it. What happened to him was not being treated "rough". Just because you resist arrest you don't forfeit your rights as a human being.

    So you think they will make that into a training video on how to subdue?
     
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    George Floyd was already in the process of dying due to heart disease, coronavirus infection, and an overdose of fentanyl, to say nothing of however many other illicit narcotic substances were in his system at the time. The autopsy confirmed the restraint hold played no part in his death. He was already in the process of dying at the time of his arrest.
     
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    And they did not call for medical when he complained as in standard operating procedure? No one is saying the officer broke his neck by stepping on him, they are saying that he went into cardiopulimanary distress caused by his airway being constricted.
     
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    he overdosed on fentanyl while cashing a bad check. Please tell me how that can even occur. He shot up fentanyl, went to cash a check and 15 min after he shot up went into CP distress. Do you know how an overdose on Fentanyl even occurs?
     
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    Yeah. You'd think that a grown adult would know better. He likely would have been out and free to commit more crimes, by now.
     
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    Just about everywhere but Minneapolis, yes. But in Minneapolis it was still an acceptable practice for those LE who'd been trained and certified to use it.

    I understand its now banned there too.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you must read the details of the report. Blood restriction would have been evident if that is what killed him. It wasn't. Will you riot when the officer is not guilty of murder? The Bolshevik Media would like you too. Whether you do or not.....there will be those that do. It had been thought his carotid artery was compressed. It was not. Now you imply it was his airway, Tell me , how do you say I can't breathe with your airway constricted??? Actually, he was saying that even before he asked to lay on the ground!!
     
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    First of all, it's a lie that Floyd was drugged ... that has long been disproved but is just ignored by people like you.
    Then it is so that he had served his sentence for robbery and he was arrested for it, because he was suspected of having paid with a forged $ 20 bill.
    All of the footage shows that Floyd's arms were handcuffed behind his back ... and then this cop bastard has no other option but to overpower Floyd other than illegally kneeling with all his weight on his neck and closing him to suffocate?

    Outside of the US, it is a known fact that police officers in the US are often some of the worst trained police officers in the world. Not generally, but often!
    Depending on the state, you will train police officers within 19 to 32 weeks and then send them to the field. The focus of the training in the USA is the use of firearms ...
    In my country, depending on the state and career path, it takes about 2.5 to 3 years to train a police officer before he goes on duty ... and there are many things on the curriculum that are unknown or barely taught in the USA . For example, de-escalation of situations and the use of stillt deadly force to overpower offenders and fugitives!

    In my country, Germany, there are 83 million people and there are around 320,000 police officers. In 2019, firearms were used 1.612 times across Germany ... of which 67 people were shot and there were a total of 14 deaths from the use of firearms by the police. Most recently in December 2019, a 35-year-old assailant who attacked police officers with a sledgehammer from hiding.

    Now compare these numbers with those of you in the USA ... you only have around 4 times more inhabitants than us - 320 million compared to 83 million ... but around 1,000 people were shot by police officers - compared to only 14 in Germany!
     
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    Still no reply for me then? :roflol:
     
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    at least he would be alive
     
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    George Floyd Protests are global.. You lose.

    We all lose in an unequal economy.

    Call me a radical leftist.. I am nore American then you ever will be.
     
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    Ehm ... on what? This one here?

    What wrong perspective please? The guy was handcuffed and the police officer knees illegal on his neck and so Floyd couldn't breath and died at least. This is the only perspective which is valid and of any interest which shows that this bastard of police officer must be jailed for murder at this single issue and all the rest is only bla bla bla ....
    OK now? ;-)
     
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    So as far as you're aware, there was no issue with Floyd's breathing BEFORE the knee on his neck?
     
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    Not really ... and even it was, it changes nothing at all = totally uninteresting. The complete action of the Police Officer is illegal and no matter there was any breathing problem before or not. Even it was, then the Police Officer has to be charged harder for it at least.
     
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    Oh, sorry, I just assumed that you watched the video where Floyd can be heard saying "I can't breath" BEFORE the knee.

    Do you mean because the officer would have known about a breathing problem and not done something about it?
     
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    Man ... is a police officer allowed to knee this way on the neck of a person? No!
    And it does not matter if there were breathing problems or not at least ... when it becomes lethal at least and the police officer ignores Floyds "can't breath" then it is murder and nothing else.

    Short: The action itself is illegal in itself and if lethal in result, then it is murdering!
     
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    In Minneapolis at the time of the incident? Absolutely it was allowed! The problem is that it lasted 8 minutes.

    Actually no, that's much more like man-slaughter or reckless endangerment.
     
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    It is allowed to knee on the back of a person, not on his neck!

    It is no different from someone who has a black belt in whatever martial art and therefore knows exactly how to kill someone with one punch or kick. If he uses it without demonstrably no other solution because there is danger to his own life (keyword self-defense in extreme cases), then that is manslaughter or even murder.
    And this was not such a case of self-defense with a man whose arms and hands were handcuffed behind his back ...
     
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    None that were known and it's irrelevant anyway. The guy was saying he can't breathe and the cop continued kneeling on his neck. That's premeditation and first-degree murder by any definition I know. If Floyd had a breathing problem that makes the cop's case even worse, as far as I can tell.
     
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    I see it the same way as you ... :)
     
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    Explain to those present precisely how fentanyl poisoning actually occurs.
     
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    Until this is you or your kid. Republicans always go this route until one of their policies/positions directly effects them.

    Your arguing the right to restrain, and NOBODY is arguing that except those on the right. OF COURSE the police have the right to restrain. BUT, att he point that "restraint" becomes life threatening to the detainee it must be stopped.

    Show me where in the constitution that the police have the right to restrain until the subject is dead
     
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    Someday it may be you, or your kid. But hey, as long as its not your kid its OK then.
     

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