Why is media so corrupt?

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  1. spiritgide

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    I would agree that media has mostly turned into propaganda machines- and that as an evil force harmful to the nation, the MSM has become very, very dangerous.
    The famous journalistic ethics of the past are long dead- and they were much like the magic window that kept the politicans of the nation honest. Now, they help them destroy truth, help them fabricate delusions.
    Should be a law sort of like the "Truth in Advertising" thing which would make intentional misdirection by press have severe legl

    Consider that nobody listening knows which actually are facts; the majority of what now is published is not even editorial opinion, it is propaganda. Journalism used to hold it's position as a public trust and a sacred obligation. The journalists would only report what they know to be facts- anything else might be published, but clearly identified as editorial opinion, not fact. However, that ethic got flushed down the toilet quite some time ago, when ownership of these media sources fell into the hands of people far more interested in the ability to manipulate the public rather than serve as the trustworthy reporters of truth and facts. They are no longer interested in hiring reporters- just mouthpieces. Fox is the only major news source presently not so controlled, at least per some reports.
     
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    I thought Trump cleaned all that up for us...or maybe he just meant he would clean up his own contributions to the problem.
    But he keeps letting them back out of jail. What a nice guy.
     
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    The MSM news sources are just house organs for the political establishment.
    Ratings and ad revenues are clearly no longer a priority.
     
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    the use of media is more about puppeteering than any usefull information
     
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    If you get a hangnail do you curse the President? You prefer all your news from a LW bubble?
     
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    Look into who's getting out of jail, and you find leftists eliminating cash bails and even paying bails for the thugs.
    We are having a sort of contest about rightful prosecution and arrest, and the left widely favors going fishing while all hell breaks loose.
    Now you can deny that, but you know it's true. They can't tell the difference between a genuine protestor and a lunatic who loots stores and firebombs them.
    How is that possible? Magic mushrooms or something?
     
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    IMO the MSM has always been a propaganda machine, but it used to at least pretend to be objective. Now everyone knows that MSM = Fake News.
    The MSM, with a little encouragement from DJT, has neutered itself.

    "In a scathing letter to New York Times publisher A.G. Sulzberger, opinion editor and writer Bari Weiss resigned from the paper on Tuesday. Not only did she criticize the Times for muting voices, but she said she was the subject of “constant bullying” by colleagues.

    “They have called me a Nazi and a racist,” she wrote, “I have learned to brush off comments about how I’m ‘writing about the Jews again.’ Several colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were badgered by coworkers. My work and my character are openly demeaned on company-wide Slack channels where masthead editors regularly weigh in.”

    Weiss said she was publicly smeared as a liar and bigot on Twitter by Times employees who were never punished for it. “They never are,” Weiss wrote."
    POYNYTER.ORG, Here is Weiss’ resignation letter in full, By Tom Jones, July 14, 2020.
    https://www.poynter.org/business-wo...bari-weiss-new-york-times-resignation-letter/
     
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    the corrupt bipartisan ruling political class in Washington
    Some have said this is the reason ethics got flushed.....
    "The fairness doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented. The demise of this FCC rule has been considered by some to be a contributing factor for the rising level of party polarization in the United States."

    What's True
    The FCC did abandon the Fairness Doctrine under the Reagan administration in 1987.
     
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    If Trump is allowed to let his convicted cronies out of the slammer...why should a BLM participant be treated any different.
     
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    But my assessment includes all media. That's the point. Coke or Pepsi--they're both soft drinks. It's a matter of our individual tastes.
     
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    Yes, that is why PBS/NPR are being tagged as "State Funded Media".

    "YouTube will now add a label to videos that come from state-funded media outlets, the Google-owned company announced on Friday. A notice will appear under the videos for any outlets that received some level of government or public funding. It will also include a link to the Wikipedia article about that broadcaster for viewers to glean more information about the news source.

    "News is an important and growing vertical for us and we want to be sure to get it right, helping to grow news and support news publishers on YouTube in a responsible way," Geoff Samek, senior product manager for YouTube News wrote in a blog post published on Friday."

    In an example on the YouTube blog, a video from Radio Free Asia -- which is funded by the US' agency, the Broadcasting Board of Governors -- includes a note with an information symbol under the video but right above the title. "RFA is funded in whole or in part by the American government," it states.

    Other outlets affected include PBS and the Russian-funded network, RT."
    CNN, YouTube to start labeling videos posted by state-funded media, By Hadas Gold, February 2, 2018.
    http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/02/media/youtube-state-funded-media-label/index.html
     
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    People who drink Coke and Pepsi have not thought it was good for them since Coke stopped touting cocaine as health food. ;-)

    “There is no incongruity in the fact that a new poll conducted by the Media Insight Project, a joint project of the American Press Institute and the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, finds the American media’s popularity way down with that of Washington politicians. With 2,014 adults surveyed, only 6% expressed “a lot of confidence” in the press.”

    “The Media Insight poll found that close to 90% of Americans consider it extremely important or very important that journalists get their facts right. As in RatherGate and so many other cases, the media not only gets the facts wrong but also uses them as political weapons.”
    INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY, Only 6% Trust the Media, But It Should Be Less, Editorial, 4/19/16.
    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/only-6-trust-media-but-it-should-be-less/
     
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    That is their game, but you can find useful information in the political media.
    You just have to look harder to find it. For example:

    "The organization that uncovered the world of offshore tax havens and rogue international finance in the Panama Papers and Luxembourg Leaks has shifted its attention to fake science. In collaboration with reporters from 18 news outlets all over the world, German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung examined 175,000 scientific articles published by five of the world’s most prominent pseudo-scientific publishing platforms. The result? The collaboration found that some 400,000 scientists worldwide have been published in these journals since 2013."
    MOTHER JONES, 400,000 Scientists All Over the World Have Been Published in Fake Journals, Journalists investigated widespread fraud within the scientific publishing community., BY KARI SONDEJUL. 20, 2018.
    https://www.motherjones.com/media/2018/07/real-news-tackles-fake-science/
     
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    I'm one of those 90%'rs. The only problem is that facts may be there, but how they're presented changes how we interpret them. It goes back to the protests/riots thing. Different sources may report the same facts, but can show significant bias through the words used to report as well as which facts are focused most on.

    Pepsi must have been for conservatives because they don't do drugs, right? :)
     
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    For news I watch only PBS NewsHour. but I'm not so sure it is considered "State Funded Media".

    Funded by / Ownership

    PBS NewsHour is funded through donations and sponsorship’s from individuals, foundations, and corporations.
    PBS NewsHour offers full disclosure of funders here. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders
     
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    Can you spot the loaded language in that paragraph? What's factual, what's assumption, and what is the main idea here?
     
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    Youtube labels PBS/NPR as State Funded Media. That does not mean that their reporting is worthless.

    “The day of the meeting, I walked into the DOJ conference room, where around the table sat a phalanx of FBI agents. My three colleagues joined me. Mueller walked into the room, went to the head of the table, and opened the meeting with this admonition, reconstructed from my vivid and chilling memory: “Gentlemen: Criticism of the Bureau is a non-starter.” (Another lawyer attendee of the meeting remembered Mueller’s words slightly differently: “Prosecutorial misconduct is a non-starter.” Either version makes clear Mueller’s intent – he did not want to hear evidence that either the prosecutors or the FBI agents on the case misbehaved and framed an innocent man.)”
    PBS/WGBH, How Robert Mueller Tried To Entrap Me, By HARVEY SILVERGLATE, October 17, 2017.
    http://news.wgbh.org/2017/10/17/silverglate-how-robert-mueller-tried-entrap-me
     
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    MoJo is not an objective source. It is a 'by any means necessary publication.
    The article is especially credible because it reports against the source's bias.
    The Replication Crisis has become so serious that publications across the spectrum are disturbed enough to start covering it.
     
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    I agree, but my question was more rhetorical in the sense that we need to question what we're reading. I'm still linking back to my previous idea--that even Mother Jones can publish facts, but publish them in ways that trigger our biases. It's ultimately up to each of us to take a broader, more open approach reading the news. We should approach all (as in ALL) of it as the information sewer and not swallow anything.
     
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    Your link to WGBH is Boston's NPR station. That has nothing to do with PBS NewsHour.
    PBS NewsHour is not the same as "State Funded Media".
    Anyway why would you trust YouTube???
     
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    Jeff Campbell my old shop teacher? Probably.


    You're weird.
     
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    Yes, I trust no media, and MoJo slants everything - even when it does not have to.
     
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    Jesus Christ was corrupt?
    Does Booman = Satan?
     
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    Because political convictions are wrongful in the first place. I realize that is seen as being only when the convicted person is a leftist, but it is true across the board. That- and equal justice under the law, where the same offense gets the same punishment regardless of political connections. We have been watching that idea laughed at for some time now- and it's not funny.
     
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    Here's a link to whole list of political prisoners.
    So why is Stone out and they are not??
    https://afgj.org/politicalprisonersusa
     
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