I’m going to be the guinea pig

I found out today that my coworker who works right next to my office was tested positive for COVID-19. Another coworker who works on the other side of the building was tested positive too.

Since we were in the same building and in the same area for extended periods of time, sharing door handles and lunch room, if this was a regular flu or a common cold I’d definitely catch it. This is the opportunity for me to serve as a guinea pig to see in real life how contagious this virus is.
My 4yo daughter had a mild cold about 1 week ago. My nose was a bitch itchy in the middle of last week, but that’s about it. If my daughter had the COVID-19 then I was the one who spread it to the office. I’ve quoted some research here in the past showing that prior common cold (based on regular coronaviruses) can improve your course of the disease. I also smoke cigarettes and vape cannabis 3:2 THC:CBD every evening. I’m very curious to find out if I have it and am trying to get my doctor to give me referral for the test. If I do have the COVID-19 then my first action will be to immediately stop smoking cigarettes, but I will vape more CBD, not less, because it has anti-inflammatory properties and puts some breaks on the immune system if it goes into overdrive and by vaping it I’m coating the surface of my lungs with this compound. I’ll keep you updated.

 

I hope you're taking vitamins c, d and zinc.

Good luck.

 

Forgot about the vitamins. Gonna go and raid my wife’s supplies.

 

Zinc is at least as important as the vitamins, perhaps moreso.

 

My cousin and his wife both tested positive. Never had a single symptom.

 

Quinine is the active ingredient in hydroxychloroquine that tricks the cell membrane into uptaking higher than usual levels of zinc which in turn prevent the replication if the virus in the cell. Quinine is most easily found in most tonic waters (check the label, try to avoid corn syrup brands). Without the quinine, your cells will 'turn their nose' to the zinc and most of it will just end up taxing your kidneys (which it will do anyway, so don't overdo it).

Afaik, theres no such thing as too much vitamin C. I mean there has to be, but its prolly really hard to achieve. Tank up on it (from various sources, as some will be more bioavailable than others).

Sunlight exposure helps you produce (or process, depending on the source) vitamin D. Short but frequent exposures are best as they allow your skin to heal some of the harmful aspects of exposure. Skin cancer is prolly worse than Covid unless you're over 80yo. I've heard the bulk of D production actually occurs in the eyes... but do not look directly at the sun

 

You should be able to get approved for a fast track test. My wife had a co-worker test positive 3 weeks ago, via fast track, negative test last Wednesday, and returns to work this week, fortunately he had been away for 6 weeks. So the workplace wasnt doing any notifications as they think he contracted this while traveling

 

My morning cocktail,
In a rocks glass half full of water, dump in one packet of emergen-C and one airborne tablet. Once dissolved, use it to wash down one quality one a day vitamin. That’s about as bulletproof as you can get.

I will add to never drink reverse osmosis water. Read the labels on your bottled water and just say no to RO! Spend the extra buck a case and go for a quality brand of spring water.

 

It makes you wonder about the accuracy of the PCR tests. Some say such tests have never been proved very well.

 

340,000,000 people in the US are going to have this virus. The only two questions are when and what will the clinical ramifications be, if any.

 

Nobody can test their way out of this.

 

She is a nurse so I sort of assume they really had it via her job, otherwise I would probably assume they had false positives with both of them being 100% asymptomatic.

 

The tests are a distraction for the masses and the media.

They are not exactly useless, but they are close to useless.

 

It's very difficult to know anything scientifically.

 

Well, my results came back negative yesterday.
So, somehow I managed to spend multiple 8-hour shifts in a close proximity to a coworker who started to get symptoms last Friday. We were using same entry doors and the lunch room. Nobody used masks and gloves inside.
If this was a flu I’d definitely get it.

I think the negative result can be interpreted as 2 possibilities - I already had it, or the virus is not as contagious as is being claimed. Apparently all of my other coworkers who worked in that department tested negative too.
Last winter in period from mid-January to mid-March we were all passing to each other mild forms of cold. It was mild for most, but 2 coworkers did go to urgent care / emergency room. One of those mild colds could have been the COVID-19.

What do you think?

 

I think a number of things
A. This is the internet... you can claim anything you want

B. You were lucky?

C. You got a false negative

 

The other possibility, a known fact, is that the tests are notoriously inaccurate. False positives may be more common than false negatives, but they are both possible, somewhat probable, outcomes.

I think it is highly transmissible, but very low morbidity.

I will continue with vitamins and minerals. The masks are downright silly.

 

PCR tests are very specific (if they are positive, you got COVID-19) but not as sensitive as they may miss the virus in initial phases if the swab doesn't get a contaminated area.

 

That's a good thing. Guinea pigs are adorable.

Stay safe.

 

Glad to know that your result was negative.

If you ever catch it, vit D, C, and Zinc are good ideas, together with quercetin which is a harmless zinc ionophore (promotes Zinc going into the cells where it inhibits viral replication).

It's hard to determine these things from one situation at work. There are super-spreaders who contaminate dozens and even hundreds of persons (like the lady in a South Korean building who managed to even contaminate a neighbor she had never met or even crossed in corridors, who lived one floor below her), and there are other positive people who don't manage to infect anybody.

Variables include viral load, and susceptibility - such as, people who have developed better immunity to coronaviruses through many exposures to common colds (20% of those are by coronaviruses), people with type O blood theoretically being less susceptible, the possibility that you have already had a case and you are now PCR-negative (you should do an antibody test to find out, if you're curious), people with high levels of vitamin D, etc.

Sorry, but you can't say "this virus is not that contagious because not many in my place of work got it." There's been other places of work with hundreds of cases... like some meat plants.

Anecdotal evidence is not the best way to go about these things. The virus is obviously very contagious, but some people either don't catch it or get a very mild infection which can be asymptomatic or very mild symptoms.

There's nothing being "claimed" about its infectiousness. It's data from real-life cases that makes it have a replication number calculated as between 2 and 5.7 which is at least double of the flu's.

Now, the common cold is MORE contagious than the SARS-CoV-2. Each American gets the common cold 5 times per year (average). So don't conclude that the SARS-CoV-2 is not too contagious just because it is less contagious than the common cold.

The difference is that the common cold is pretty harmless and generally goes away in days with no lasting consequence except in the most extreme circumstances, while the SARS-CoV-2 has a potential to be lethal and to cause other complications in a percentage of survivors (such as stroke, pulmonary fibrosis, renal insufficiency, brain damage, cardiac damage, etc.).

Could mild cases in your workplace in February/March have been COVID-19 (further explaining why not many caught it now)? Yes, depending on the area of the country. There was community transmission more widespread at the time than thought, and at the time we were testing very little. So some of your co-workers may have had it, and may be immune (and PCR-negative) by now.

 

False positives are common for antibody tests, not for the RT-PCR test.

So, no, false positives are not "somewhat probable" if what is being used is a PCR test. They are actually extremely rare for a PCR test. False negatives, another story. More common for PCR, and the rapid antigen tests are a bit of a hit and miss. Antibody tests, even more uncertain including because of the various makers and no good studies separating these makers in lousy or good.

Highly transmissible, correct. More than the flu. Less than the common cold. Much less than TB or measles.

Low morbidity, debatable. 0.65% to 1% of estimated infection-fatality rate may be low mortality from an individual's standpoint but is not low from a public health standpoint, and morbidity (which is not the same as mortality) is looking anything but low, with the concerning new reports of a sizable number of complications among survivors. I wouldn't be surprised if when it's all said and done, and when we fully understand all the consequences of having had COVID-19, we realize that 5% of people will have long-term health consequences. Do I know it for sure? No, it's a novel disease. But concerning signs have been popping up everywhere.

Vitamins and minerals, great. Include quercetin and melatonin, too.

Here is guidance for all phases of the disease, from a very reputable source (look at page 4):

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_pub...cine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

Masks being downright silly - you couldn't be more mistaken, there.

Here:

 

We just finished quarantine and I go back to work tomorrow. 2 of the 4 in my house tested positive. I got mild symptoms and tested negative again after 2 weeks, so I'm a maybe. One of us tested negative and never showed any symptoms.

 

@Eleuthera - Regarding morbidity, this is not a peer-reviewed study, but at least it was done by a doctor from the Indiana University School of Medicine: a survey of "long hauler" symptoms, that is, people who did not die from COVID-19 but came out of it with persistent symptoms.

https://precisionhealth.iu.edu/news-multimedia/_news/lambert-covid-symptom-study-doc.pdf

More concerning is this one, which is peer-reviewed and points to more serious issues (have I mentioned it to you before? Maybe I have):

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916

 

If you're under 60 and in decent health and you catch Covid, you're more than twice as likely to be murdered than die of Covid.

Well, maybe not twice as high in Democrat areas. You're much more likely to be murdered there before you can die of Covid.

 

Strangely my friends who is healthy and 50 damn near died from it