Trumps great push to reopen schools

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    So let me get this straight. A school reopened and tested students on day one. One child tested positive (meaning he contracted the virus BEFORE school reopened) and the school decided to quarantine the whole school on day 2. No mention on whether this child is sick or will be sick. No mention of if he spread the virus. No mention on if they re-tested the kids he was in contact with. Just nothing more than one situation where a child acquired the virus before school started as a display to say "orange man bad".
     
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    You got love the MSM
     
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    Did you keep reading on other districts getting positive results. Plus even if they dont get sick when they go home to family it will spread or maybe grandma has to watch him or her after school gets it from the kid and unfortunately dies.
     
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    Do you work?
    Do you have kids?
    2 really easy questions for you.
     
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    One thing that most scientists agree on is that children under the age of 15 rarely show any adverse signs from COVID. They also state that these children also rarely spread the virus. These are the same scientists that many on the left claim that Trump does not listen to. Nobody said the children do not test positive for the virus and, in fact, they expect many will test positive. Maybe the school should have tested the students the day BEFORE starting classes.
     
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    Yea that's how quarantines work, you seek maximum containment effectiveness. Pres Trump is being an absolute fool with this re-open push and Republican Govs falling in line are also being fools. The virus is surging and these clowns are literally throwing more bodies at it trying to get as many people as sick as possible just so none of these teachers, or the parents who stay home from work to take care of the kids, end up filing for unemployment and making the President's campaign that much harder.

    'Orange man' in this instance is 'bad'. He's playing this all wrong and doesn't seem to realize that he's probably handing battleground states over to VP Biden in the process. The #1 issue for independents and swing-voters isn't the proggie's BLM race war or the conservative "muh rights muh freedoms" anti-mask science-denying shtick - its the threat of COVID. Voters like us don't care for radicalist Marxist leftism and we know damned well VP Biden will be slave to that if hes elected but we're willing to let it happen for 4 or so years if it means COVID is brought under control. Your mantra might be "live free or die" but ours is more along the lines of "we'd rather live conditionally than not live at all".
     
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    And yet deaths are way down:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
     
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    Yea that's how quarantines work, you seek maximum containment effectiveness = maintaining a large segment of the population ready and available to be a vector to the at risk populations.

    Nothing solved. Hiding whilst awaiting the vaccine miracle goddess isn't a solution.

    One more time. Protect the at risk, let the remainder of the population live free, get the virus perhaps and remove vectors.

    Nothing has changed.
     
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    Need to give up standing on the mortality rate, its a weak flimsy position that can too easily be dismantled by examining all the other factors such as long term health impacts other than death, the personal financial burden survivors are left with, the all around reduced standard of health care that COVID has caused, the deliberative moral of healthcare professionals who are in battlefield triage mode every single day, and more.

    Some of you people want to act like its either a) you get COVID and you're fine or b) you get COVID and you die. Like there's literally NOTHING more to it than this binary outcome. Have you not figured out yet that the long term impact of how we've chosen to deal with COVID will leave us unequivocally and substantially weak as a country. That's the price we've paid and the bill comes 20 30 40 years down the road when scores of millions, SCORES OF MILLIONS, suffer the reduced capacity of heart, lung, liver, and kidney functions that surviving COVID brings. You do understand that by the time we get to that point the America you know will be gone, we will have switched over to full blown socialism because the sheer amount of people left unable to take care of themselves will demand it.

    America is not going back to what it was, ok, that dream is dying and guess what Republicans you helped kill it. You didn't draw first blood but you damned sure ran over got got a few stabs in. All you had to do was wear a *PROPER* ****ing mask, stand a few feet away from people when you shop, close your business down for a little bit, worship in your heart and not in a Church, put your kids into online-learning environments, and tell these BRAINDEAD federal, state, and local officials to stop their belligerent re-open crusades when the virus is running rampant before your very eyes!!!!

    So stand on "death rates" if you want. At this point its likely too late to tip the scales back the other way so, by all means, pull a bag over your eyes because the horror ahead isn't going to be fun to watch.
     
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    So why should COVID be treated any different than other diseases? Why do "some of you people" feel it is necessary to cripple the healthy by destroying their businesses and the economy by forcing them to shut down when the risk of death...and even contraction....is very minimal? Sure, take precautions. Sure, protect yourself and others. I support all of that. However, it as if some people feel that the positive testing results and the death count be completely reduced to zero before we are allowed to return to even close to normal.
     
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    Fear mongering is all you have left?
     
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    Well your God trump does it so why not.
     
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    Just what trump dreams of more uneducated kids to follow him

    Edit to believe him......
     
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    Reply to bolded: because it's way more infectious then other diseases.
     
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    Because you're not likely to catch AIDS by going to the grocery store. You won't develop COPD because someone else won't wear a mask. And its virtually impossible for your kid to come home from school and pass cancer on to you. It was/is necessary to "cripple the healthy" because everyone is a player in the game of COVID. Cmon man, how have you not figured it out by now? We're quite literally all depending on each other for our survival on this one.
     
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    Is it??

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    It is certainly more infectious than the seasonal flu. However, tuberculosis is more infectious and even more deadly. We did not even come close to going to this extreme with the H1N1 in 2009, when there were many more cases of contraction in the US then there has been for COVID.

    While the number of positive tests have increased, the number of deaths have remained low and are not relative to positive tests.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?country=~USA

    There has been claims of potential long term hazards from just contracting the COVID virus, but the verdict is still out in the medical field as to whether these hazards are life threatening or even life altering.
     
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    Perhaps we can educate kids on how to avoid making claims that call for the operation of the mind so they can preserve their credibility.
     
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    Lol...trump said there’s no substitute for traditional schooling.

    “When you have students sitting at home playing with a computer, it’s not the same,” he said at the briefing. “When you sit at home in a basement looking at a computer, your brain starts to wither away.

    Now we know why he’s so stupid since he lies around all day tweeting on his phone.
    He can’t afford to lose what few brain cells he has.
     
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    So why did we not go to this level of extreme during the H1N1 virus of 2009 where there were 60.8 million positive cases?
     
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    My god huh? Very poor guess.
     
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    I only know one person against reopening. shes a liberal teacher.

    Probably could have guessed that eh?
     
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    Oh, stop projecting.

    The death rate is going down and aren't nearly as high as feared. Transmission rates aren't as high as initially feared. Immunity is conferred and post infection and recovery no reinfection has occurred as feared. (That would constetute a miracle btw, no immunity, a first) Long term health effects beyond those in the seriously compromised at risk cohort have not materialized as gruesomely speculated and feared. (scores of millions?)

    Fear, fear, fear, fear.
     
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