Comparisons to Spanish flu. Seriously??

The WHO has said it will take two years to clear this virus as this is how long it took the Spanish flu to clear. Facile!

Apples and Soybeans!

The Spanish flu killed killed 50 million worldwide in a time when the world population was well under two billion. And it killed across every demographic almost equally including babies and children.

This pandemic kills primarily elderly or the very weakened in a world of about 8 billion.

Weak viruses attack the weak and so by definition this is a weak virus.

Comparisons to 1918 are weak arguments as the Spanish flu virus (a powerful virus) are essentially an embarrassment to statistical or any intellectual epidemiological study.

(By the way, one can probably blame Woodrow Wilson for it’s powerful spread by being more concerned about sending even sick soldiers to Europe than in contagion risk. Yes this came close to unintentional genocide and something that the rabidly anti American contingent here could seize upon but bewilderingly choose not to.

Americans chose to intervene in world war 1 at a time when they had no stake in the outcome preventing a stalemate that would have resulted in an armistice more favorable to Germany and likely preventing the rise of the Nazis. But I digress.)

And now some “scientists” are saying we will never be rid of it?!

This is an embarrassment to me as one trained in science.

 

As a layman, my guess is the virus will be hanging around for quite some time.

One of the best books I've ever read was Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs and Steel", explaining the growth and evolution of the human species.

 

I was under the impression that the Spanish flu was by far the most deadly. People could be fine in the morning and then die in agony before the day was out. And it turns out that deadly diseases don't spread as far as a mild symptom trojan-horse type virus. 'Cause you can spread it to other people for weeks even if you don't have any symptoms.

 

The "Spanish" Flu pandemic ran from February 1918 - April 1920. We're ahead of the 1918 death count by almost 100,000 for the same time period. This ain't anywhere near over yet, because the Branch Covidians seem to be just as stupid as their counterparts a century ago.

But hey - keep building that house of straw, little pigs...

 

you do know Med and hygiene advance significantly OVER 100 years, right lol. back then a simple infection can kill you, and no one know what "virus" is. now we got MRI/CT/antibiotic/better hygien/beter med/we know what virus is/we can decode virus/we know the symtoms and cause etc etc the list goes on and on.

science is "base on fact and data" , when we are short of data, we have less accracy in the outcome, from jan to now, we have more knowledge/data on covid, so info is more accurate now compare back then. its also the same reason death rate is getting lower, cause we have some ideas how to increase patient survial rate

you sure you are really science major? cause if you are Truly train in science you should know, science is base on data/fact, the more it have, the accurate it gets. and science advance tremendously over the past 100 years, especially medical science.

 

And yet, our death count is triple that of 100 years ago over the same time frame. How do you explain that?

 

That's some tortured English there

 

First of all you should know that antibiotics are intended for bacteria and you shooed know that viruses are different from bacteria.

I was quoting the WHO who are suggesting two years is the expected amount of time for the virus to pass based on the 1918 pandemic so you might wish to take up the advances in medicine with them.

Yes my degree is in chemistry.

Do you proof read your posts before you send them?

Might be worth investing a bit of time on that.

 

The population is about 4 times greater than in 1918.

 

This is kinda like arguing Superman v Batman

This thing is deadly.

We'll likely have 200,000 dead before the November election.

That's serious

 

If there isn't a serious slowdown in the mortality rate, we'll break 200,000 before the end of September. We're currently at 176,000+ with over 1,000 new deaths per day.

 

my point was you are comparing spanish flu vs covid, and your logic is not correct due to advancement in med. no need, english is my 2nd language, i'm not english major, + i'm on a forum not writing my thesis, so i dont double check, whatever come out of my mind i just blast it out. sound like you can't put up a good counter argument instead targeting my grammer lol

 

like i said its 1am and english not my major, and my 2nd language ill just blast it out whatever come up in my mind.

 

Probably closer to a quarter million by this point. We haven't even hit fall yet, and diseases like this tend to spike in fall and winter.

 

Yep, and deaths will probably start to climb in fall and winter, not slow down. Unless we ramp up containment measures and/or we get some kind of treatment before then, neither of which are likely. We're deep into "how about we just let this wash over the country" territory.

 

Closer to three times, maybe 3.5. We're likely already underestimating death counts, and that's even after social distancing, etc.

 

An "expert" actually made about that same ridiculous comparison, and the leftist media' and the Trump haters' fawned all over him.


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...erview-trump-does-not-want-you-to-see.572653/

 

My argument was that the WHO is saying this will be around for two years based on the fact that is how long the Spanish flu was around. So they don’t see advances in medicine shortening the time frame. Other scientists say it will be around forever so they are even more pessimist. Now I’ve lost interest in this.

 

50 million died of Spanish flu with a world population just under 2 billion. So there would have to be 200 million deaths from covid for a comparable death rate today.

 

And the Chinese Flu is going to be an even "darker winter" than the Spanish Flu.

 

The US also now has triple the population as in 1918.

 

By that logic, Covid 19 is just as lethal as the Spanish Flu. Even more so, considering we have a century of medical advancement in our favor.

 

Well the world economy isn’t completely tanked yet so let’s shut everything down until things are 100 percent safe and that should probably finish it off.

 

The Chinese Flu is actually not really all that bad, because of who it's killing, and how it's killing them.

The Chinese Flu is a walk in the park compared to the Spanish Flu.

The Spanish Flu killed the young and healthy, and it was far worse than COVID in not just the number of deaths, but in how much life it took. The Spanish Flu dropped the life expectancy of an American by 10 years in just a single year. The Chinese Flu is barely even going to shave a few months off the life clock of Americans.

COVID deaths almost always involve comorbidities. It kills people who are already sick, frail, and unhealthy, but the Spanish Flu was just the opposite. In like a horrific sort of Judo move, it used the strong immune systems of healthy people to attack their own health.

If the Chinese Flu were anywhere near as bad as the Spanish Flu, the world would be an abject horror show right now. Our modern civilization would currently be collapsing around our ears, and that's not even rhetoric, that's as for real as real gets.

Imagine how people would be freaking the frick out if COVID was killing kids left and right in our modern PANIC! and OUTRAGE! culture?

It would be a complete poopshow.

 

And of course those over 50...so we shouldn't be concerned.

Gotta love Trump fans