Whether BLM protests are violent or not is NOT the question

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  1. Crownline

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    You do. But the bottom line is it’s an election year and the democrats are once again trying to scare the hell out of the black community in order to secure their vote. It’s really pretty elementary.
     
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    Just gonna leave this here...

    Security Calls Cops on Brandon Marshall for the Crime of Being Black in a Rich Neighborhood – His Own
     
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    Like Mexicans?
     
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    There's an internal mechanism in place to detect and deal with violent cops. Is there such a mechanism for demonstrators? Are the organizers even trying?
     
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    Thanks for owning yourself.

    Oh, look. Weston FL is like 70% democrat, and has voted all Democrat my a majority margin in all of the elections listed.

    No wonder it's such a racist place.

    https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/florida/weston

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    If that were true and they think all white supremacists are Republicans, shouldn’t they be “protesting” in Republican cities? Why aren’t they? They know they will be stopped. Their whole movement is about POWER, and it has devolved into looting and mob violence. NOT a good look if you are trying to portray yourselves as a group with legitimate grievances. Democrats had better WISE UP FAST...
     
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    @Golem
    Until you put your money where your mouth is and give up all your property to blacks, it's just TALK!
     
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    So you're saying BLM is the best they can do.

    How a bout this? You want to be treated equal? Be Equal.
     
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    I'm happy to hear that. You wouldn't believe how many people still don't get, like you do now, that my mentality is based on reality and facts.
     
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    You make a lot of assumptions.
     
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    If you want to maintain some sort of credibility, a pre-requisite to any serious person referring to your post (or even reading it), you first need to show foundation for your claims. This could only be done in this case by defining what a "marxist" is (in real life, not just some propagandist fabrication), and then demonstrating that people who come to protest to defend a constitutional right and human right fit into that definition.

    Until you do that, everything you write is similar to listening to the mindless propaganda that the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones... and similar spew, meant to be consumed and repeated by their "brainless" audience.

    I'm pretty sure that you can do better than that....
     
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    I can do no better than show you the facts. Once you have them it's up to you if you go by them, or you just cling to the right-wingnut talking points. You have obviously decided to go with the latter so... good luck to you.
     
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    Any black person who drives a car can be detained at a traffic stop. Even a millionaire who can hire a white driver has family.

    But, you are confused. The people who protest are not Trumpian self-centered slobs. There are people who protest who do not directly feel the oppression. Each one has a different motives. Some, for example, because they don't want this happening to friends, colleagues, team-mates, ... others because they think that one day they might need others to stand up for them, or have needed it in the past.

    This might sound completely foreign to a Trump supporter, but the majority of people out there actually feel this thing some call "empathy". They actually do care for people other than themselves.

    The rest of your post is absurd. Becoming millionaires or President is not what protesters seek. They just don't want to be scared to death every time they are stopped by a cop (for example). It's simple... So don't listen to the white supremacist strategy to undermine the issue by over complicating it.
     
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    The right to not be horrified in fear for their life and that of their family every time they encounter a cop, for example.
     
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    Yes!!!!

    Institutional racism is a nation-wide phenomena with no political affiliation. The only difference is that the far right Trumpist white-supremacist faction came out of the closet in the last few years and have tried to deny it. But I don't even think that most Republicans buy into it.

    Nobody in particular is responsible for that happening. It has been part of our history since before we even constituted a nation. But some are responsible for undermining the efforts to correct it. Mostly white-supremacists who see oppressing others as part of the privileges they don't want to lose. But also others who, though not themselves white-supremacists, are simply too gullible and fall into their narrative.
     
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    Or course! That's what "organizing" means. So long as the protests are "organized", they are kept as non-violent as is humanly possible. The level of which varies according to the circumstances. Unorganized protests always tend to be more violent than organized ones.

    Organized violence looks nothing like any of the instances of violence we've seen during the protests.
     
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    I read more than the right wing talking points. You might try the same.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/k...ves-its-version-of-blake-shooting/ar-BB18tWPM
    Notice that police unions are supporting Trump. None that I know of are supporting Biden. Did you know that the majority of black's want the same or more police presence?
     
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    But the problems are mostly occurring in democratic controlled cities.
     
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    If businesses were being destroyed around here many people would take guns to where it was happening to stop it. None of them would be white supremacists. I think it’s silly to assume people who believe in private property rights are also white supremacists. That is not logical.
     
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    Peaceful protest is more effective but if peaceful protest is met by disproportionate force self defence can spiral into confrontation.
    It is important to remember that a crowd is made up of individuals. Just because a percentage resort to violence, it doesn't mean it is condoned by the majority. I agree BLM should dissociate themselves from violence and looting - their protests would be more effective. However if you take someone and repeatedly slap them about, it is unsurprising that they will lose it at some point.
    It is interesting that no one is contesting that minorities are discriminated against (see first post). As this seems to be accepted, surely the next question is, 'What are we going to do about it?', followed by, 'Who is the best president to do this?'
     
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    Why? Who would they shoot at there? Or, at least, intimidate by waving their big white phallic symbols all over the place.

    BTW, I haven't said "all" white supremacists are Republicans. Words like "all", "never", "always"... are not words that I tend to use lightly... Except in jest, of course (or by mistake). Even though they are a favorite of the right-wingnut media when they fabricate what progressives believe. And that right wingers do use loosely.

    Case in point, your following statement...
    Here
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-is-not-the-question.577643/#post-1072003456

    Here...
     
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