The Kenosha Shooting Suspect Was In The Front Row Of A Trump Rally In January

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  1. FatBack

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    In the heat of the moment (with that particular one you pictured) you cant, but I instantly spotted the fitting for the gas bottle and gas line. Any word on what his paintball gun looked like? Most tend to look more like this upload_2020-9-1_13-6-7.jpeg
     
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    To be fair, it isn't the "state of Wisconsin" is it? It's the Lake County Courts who charged the kid. I know, facts... right?
     
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    No, you don't know if a particular person has been rioting.

    How are you going to identify this...

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    ... as a paintball weapon in a split second?
     
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    Show a precedent, then advance an argument counselor.....
     
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    Wisconsin Self Defense laws. Sure, there are arguments to be made on both sides, but I didn't see he "exhausted every other reasonable means to escape"

    SNIP
    A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person’s assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.
    ENDSNIP

    OTOH, I'm not sure I believe either shooting is 1st degree, in that I don't think there is anything in the public eye that he had intent to kill...
     
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    I'm not even sure this would save you from getting shot and the shooter not being able to successfully claim self-defense.
     
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    LOL.. Translation... well... um..... ya got me there....

    The fact that you can't overcome any of that argument demonstrates just how flimsy your theory is. Why even try at this point to push it as credible? You've tied yourself to the charging doc produced by the same folks who also are protesting the cops in the blake case. You've suggested, many times, that that department can't be trusted, and yet you've wedded yourself to the same folks who crafted this charge against Rittenhouse. Explain to me again why Rittenhouse turned himself over to the police? As for you continued support for convicted criminals attacking an armed 17 yo, while they clearly were stupid, it was their actions that got them killed. You started this thread spouting how you believed that Rittenhouse was some desperate active shooter, video shows this isn't the case, and you're left with having had to defend your original assertion which patently is false. And yet you preserver. One hopes that you get paid to post this garbage, because as a reflection of credibility, you are certainly taking a dive....
     
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    How does the fact I carry a gun on my way to work in another state mean that if I shoot someone in that other state, I, necessarily, did not act in self-defense?
    While protesting, how do I lose my right to self-defense?
     
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    That's not a paintball gun, it's an Airsoft gun.

    Who are you claiming had an Airsoft/ paintball gun anyway?

    Are you referring to a specific situation, or are you bringing up Airsoft and paintball guns for some other irrelevant reason?
     
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    They keep hearing the Trump haters squawking about "He crossed state lines!" and they just assume it's somehow relevant and/or significant. None of them can really explain why though.
     
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    Yep. All 20 miles of it, lol. Where he apparently also had a day job?

    LOL
     
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    Note how it doesn't bother them when they hear about people crossing state lines to participate in the #BLMob riots.
     
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    I didn't think any of the three Kyle killed were from WI.
     
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    You don't think? Not difficult to find out. For starters...one murder victim...
    Also...
    Silver Lake is in Wisconsin. You can look up the 3rd shooting victim yourself before you circulate false information.
     
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    It's hard to tell since all three were criminals and at least one had arrests in other states.

    And it was not murder.
     
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    Lefty was from Wisconsin, but he came from up by Milwaukee, which is a 3 times further drive than to where Kyle came from.

    Crossing a border changes EVERYTHING though, because reasons.
     
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    I knew one was a sex offender from TX and then AZ, lol. Funny how felons have to keep moving around to stay out of prison.
     
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    You have determined that it was not murder and these were not murder victims based upon your years on the bench?
     
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    The videos clearly show self defense.

    You don't have to be a judge to know the law. Kyle was attempting to remove himself from the conflict in ALL THREE cases where he had to use force.

    There's tons of case law about pursuers being required to allowing people to flee. Evidence clearly shows he was pursued by people intending to do him harm. Self defense is OBVIOUS.
     
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    You have determined that it was murder, based upon your years on the bench?
     
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    A 36-year-old burger-flipping registered sex pest felon.

    What a prize.
     
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    Oh and btw..3rd shooting victim…
    West Allis is also in Wisconsin.

    So far you are zero for three in your claim that the victims were not from Wisconsin so your credibility and fact checking kind of stinks.
     
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    So they weren't from there, either.
    Okay, thanks.
     
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    The 17 year old kid wasn't even shot at with a paintball gun, yet for the rightists, he was defending himself when he killed an unarmed person…. after arming himself and travelling from another state for the sole purpose of confronting protesters whom he disagreed with over political ideas.
     
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