California Passes Pro Pedophile Bill.

I agree I think that should be the law everywhere. An 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old is not a "predator" by any means. They are basically the same age group. I would like to ASSUME that this particular bill was pushed in order for judges to have wiggle room in cases such as I mentioned before. Rare cases to where a "reasonable" person wouldn't have known the kid was 14 or 15 years old or something. I say reasonable as in the kid has a fake ID and is sitting there drinking at the bar or something like that. I don't think we should expect people to have to ID other people in an establishment specified for adults that checks ID at the door. I remember watching a Law and Order SVU episode like that where Finn was fussing at Liv about that asking what the hell do they expect people to do seriously ID a girl sitting at a bar drinking a beer to make sure she actually isn't a teenager? I agree I think that is stupid. I have no real idea how prevalent those types of things are I just remember watching that episode and they got the idea from somewhere so I would assume it happens sometimes and people have gotten in trouble for it.

I would also like to assume that a reasonable person would be able to tell that somebody isn't the age they claim to be based on the way they look or interacting with them or something. But then again there are those rare exceptions out there. I met one of my cousins at a family reunion a few years ago who I didn't remember (I have a bunch of cousins...) and I got up to grab another beer and asked the group if anybody wanted one and my damn jaw hit the floor when my Aunt laughingly told me not to give her daughter one shes only 13. The kid was taller than I was and I thought she was at least 20 (it's a party I don't mind handing my 18-20 year old cousins a beer). Meanwhile another one of my cousins who I do know well is also 13 and like 8 inches shorter than the other one and looks every bit like a 13 year old is supposed to look.

So who the hell knows I guess?

My worry with this bill is the cases I've seen of judges having discretion and handing down some ridiculous rulings on child predator cases. Stuff like somebody getting 1 year and probation or something because the judge ruled it to be a mental disorder or something like that. Again no idea how prevalent those types of radical judges are but we've all heard the stories about that stuff at some point.

 

Yeah which is why I said I hope, or rather assume, that this bill is targeted towards situations like that. Situations to where a reasonable person couldn't have known that a 14 year old kid was actually 14 and not whatever age he/she was claiming to be.

I'll put it out there although it will undoubtedly be controversial. If your 14 year old kid looks like a 22 year old and she has a fake ID and is drinking in the bar and a grown man takes her home then there should be no charges filed against that person. At the very least that should be filed under the notion of what the hell sort of parents does this kid have to where she was able to do something like that. I fully understand and support protecting the youth from predators but there is also a logical line that needs to be drawn somewhere.

I wasn't born my old age obviously, I was young once. And I can tell you right now that I have been in plenty of bars in my home town during my younger years to where I ran into kids who were freshman when I was a Senior in high school and the actual math doesn't add up to how in the hell they got in there when I was 21. This whole taking your older sisters ID thing or whatever and heading to the bar isn't very uncommon, at least it wasn't when I was young.

That's why I believe the law should be KNOWINGLY having sexual intercourse with someone underage should get you on a list. But for the cases where you pick up a guy or gal at the bar who turns out to be a lying kid with a fake ID drinking a cocktail at a bar....no.

 

Ha those days are long gone as much as we wish they werent. I look at things based on how they are, not how I wish they would be. I'm long past my teenage years now but that sort of thing wasn't even a "thing" during my teenage years and I highly doubt it's a thing nowadays with these kids.

Teenagers are having sex with each other, that's just reality as much as we may not like it. Best thing we can do is try to stop adults from getting into that mix with them and keep it among themselves at that particular age group.