Democratic Data Group Warns: Election Night Could Look Like A Trump Landslide (Until Mail-in Votes A

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Interesting prediction. Trump will win a landslide victory on election night but mail in ballots will turn that around. In other words votes open to fraud will turn the election.

    “We are sounding an alarm and saying that this is a very real possibility, that the data is going to show on election night an incredible victory for Donald Trump," he said.



    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...andslide_until_mail-in_votes_are_counted.html
     
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    I think democrats are seeing internal polling that shows they might lose badly. Sounds like they intend to not accept the results of the election (basically told us so). So, the left sees there are close races that can be flipped with an adequate number of 'mail-in' votes, and they start ballot stuffing at the last minute. I think they tried to do this in certain places with Hillary last time around, but they couldn't come up with enough fraudulent votes to make Trump lose. Vote by mail ensures they won't have this issue again. They are already likely squirreling away many thousands of votes in areas they know will be close.
     
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    Evidence of that is Biden's handlers changing strategies and letting him out of the basement.
     
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    They did it in California. Every seat that was close in 2018, all went to the democrats. What are the odds when GOP is ahead in like 30 races to wake up the next day and find out democrats won every single one?
     
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    If this happens and trump declares himself the winner on election night and then Biden pulls ahead Nov and Dec will be interesting months. Especially if upon review Biden is the actual victor.
     
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    I straight up guarantee you that USPS postal union workers will throw out ballots by the millions from Red areas. Bank on it.
     
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    Certainly a possibility and that's why we should vote in person
     
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    Don't take this the wrong way, but why is there the assumption that there are so many dishonest, thieving and criminal elements amongst the general voting populous in the U.S? I read that the actual incidence of voter fraud is incredibly low as a percentage - and not exclusive to one political alignment.
     
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    It certainly is exclusive to one political allignement, ever hear of Chicago politics? The postal union members march and do as they are told by the union bosses, all democrats.
     
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    Voter fraud seems rare because it is extremely hard to catch people committing that act. You would essentially need to surveil them while they are voting and that's against the law.

    However if you look up voter fraud convictions you will see that although it happens on both sides the majority of convictions (around 95%) have been for democratic candidates. You can extrapolate this into larger numbers and it is obviously happening more on one side than the other since numbers don't lie.
     
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    Being the voting systems will include way more mail-in voting, why would it not be mandatory to wait until all the votes are in and counted? That would make sense and avoid any bull-****! Right? But we are now the Retarded States of America so that would be expecting too much.
     
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    Pelosi has been especially vocal about the need for mail in votes to defend democracy but that is only because she thinks mail in greatly increases the chances that Biden will win.
    If it appeared that mail in voting would help Trump she would decry it as an attack on the founding principles of the US.
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    Here is what is likely to happen:
    In person voting will be reported first on election night. If Trump does well and then loses due to mail in which is more subject to skepticism then Americans will start to look at a Biden win as a stolen election.
    Both Pelosi and Biden and Schumer (if the US Dems win the senate) will be constantly under scrutiny about this until all three of them try to gag the media (unsuccessfully)and remove troublesome interviewers and reporters from their press conferences leading to even more scrutiny.
    2020 may be a Pyrrhic victory for the US Dems.
     
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    Republicans will say it is voter fraud regardless — even in the absence of any evidence.
    trump is going all out in his efforts to illegally impact the election and no one on the right seems to care.

    It is ironic that you say the left will attempt to “gag” the media when trump has been doing this with varying levels of success for almost four years now. Even against fox news anchors that refuse to kiss the ring... and again, not a peep.
     
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    Zero.

    Dems always get millions more votes, and still lose many elections.
     
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    Let’s see. The US Democrats attempted a Trump investigation that led nowhere. They impeached him knowing he couldn’t be removed in the senate. They destroyed the US economy with unwarranted and extended shut downs over a minor virus so people could lose their jobs and livelihoods and then they blame Trump for the bad economy?! They say and do nothing about left wing violence up to and including outright murder then blame the violence on Trump when he tries to restore some order.

    Then you have Nancy who when confronted by a reporter asking if she hates Trump wags her finger and says “you better watch it!!”. Sounds like a threat to me. Haven’t seen him in press briefings lately.

    Facebook and Twitter regularly censor Trump.

    Who exactly has Trump censored?

    He is accused of being a war monger when he has not extended the US military anywhere unlike his two predecessors and even Clinton if you count the Bosnia cruise missile thing And before that it was Bush 1 and his war in Iraq. Reagan in Grenada and Lebanon. So in fact Trump is the first president since Carter not to further US involvement in any foreign conflict. He is even removing troops from Syria and wishing to remove them from Germany.

    I personally believe that the two major US parties are used to making deals with each other and Trump doesn’t play the game the way they like to play it. I’m noting only lukewarm support for Trump among Republicans.

    But rest assured that Biden will win. The millions of jobs lost will not be recovered during his tenure and taxes will be raised and more burdens will be placed on business further strangling US investment and job creation.

    As I said 2020 will be a Pyrrhic victory for US Democrats and if things get too hot for Biden politically he can always pick a war somewhere.

    That’s usually the go to distraction.
     
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    How many people were indicted again? How many people are in prison? Not to mention the investigation was sabotaged in it’s scope from the beginning.

    That is irrelevant. Just because the Senate refuses to do their job doesn’t mean the House shouldn’t do anything. We see this with the hundreds of bills that will not even be allowed a floor vote by the Senate.
    They are two separate but co-equal branches. Note the word separate

    Other countries had must stricter shutdowns and they are reopening. The states that said “its a hoax” are being barred from entering the rest of the civilized world.

    Source?
    If you are referring to the trump propaganda that she said “you better not mess with me” — she actually said “I don’t hate anybody… I was raised in a Catholic house. We don’t hate anyone, not anybody in the world … So don’t you accuse me —”

    She followed up with the further remarks from Rosen

    “I think the president is a coward when it comes to helping our kids, who are afraid of gun violence. I think he is cruel when he doesn’t deal with helping our Dreamers, of which we’re very proud. I think he’s in denial about the climate crisis, However, that’s about the election. This is about the — take it up in the election … [The impeachment inquiry] is about the Constitution of the United States and the facts that leads to the president’s violation of his oath of office And as a Catholic, I resent your using the word ‘hate’ in a sentence that addresses me. I don’t hate anyone. I was raised in a way that is a heart full of love and always pray for the president. And I still pray for the president. I pray for the president all the time, So don’t mess with me when it comes to words like that

    It is sad that the president even has to be censored. That he acts like a 4chan troll is the reason, not because he is a conservative (because he isn’t).

    Are you serious? Just this week he called for Griffin, a senior Fox News national security correspondent
    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...fox-reporter-after-trump-calls-for-her-firing
    Would you like more examples? How many?

    He is a fascist, not a war monger imo.

    He has the highest support or any present within your own party.
    I am sensing a trend in your personal beliefs, they seem false.

    Gaslight
    Obstruct
    Project
     
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    Source?
     
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    Ok that is an ad hominem and unworthy of a response.

    You are fortunate that I have the patience to deal with you but this will be the last time as I do have a life.

    My responses in the body of your latest effort above.
     
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    Google.

    Go look it up.
     
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    I attempted. Noting credible I found indicates what you posted. Since you are telling me to look up your accusations I am guessing you don’t have one either.
     
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    Rather simple actually.

    Simply look up voter fraud convictions.

    That is your source as I am not going to link each and every case for you, there are hundreds of them. But as you read through them you will see that almost all of them are democrat voters.
     
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    Like this?
    https://prospect.org/power/republicans-finally-find-major-perpetrators-ballot-fraud-and-them/
    Or this?
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/absentee-ballot-fraud-heritage/
    https://www.brennancenter.org/issue...an-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud
    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...-states-show-the-benefits-outweigh-the-risks/

    Here is another with it looking like it is split: https://justthenews.com/politics-po...there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it (and many of those are about voting multiple times which the whitehouse is advocating and the AG doesn’t know of it is illegal...

    I am specifically looking for the 95% figure that you quoted — if you were mistaken or unwilling to prove your accusation I understand. out right lies are typically really difficult to prove through sourced material. Cheers
     
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    Loot at actual convictions such as this:

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics...oter-fraud-in-2016-presidential-election.html

    If you want to single out the republican ones then fine but as you look at them you will see that most are indeed democrats. For a sample you are free to pick any random 50 cases out of a hat and see how many are democrats and you will verify the 95% rate. You can start whenever in history you like, this decade, the last one.....it doesn't matter because the numbers do not change.
     
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    So again. Nothing verifying your absurd 95% lie.
    Gotcha.

    You posted 10 voters that included “four Democrats, one Republican, one Libertarian and four people not affiliated with a political party” — which hardly backs up your assertion. I can show one example that stole the votes of thousands in NC causing the entire election to be redone, you would probably like to count this as one — but it isn’t. So for your point to be valid and just pass the single event in NC you would need to post over 100,000 for it to even be close to what you are saying... But you have 4 whole examples!
     

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